Klarinet Archive - Posting 000144.txt from 2010/11

From: "Tom Servinsky" <tompiano@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] RES: Orchestral Pitch
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:51:28 -0500

Keith
Your comments below are spot-on! This topic is a yearly debate which gets
bantered back and for the Pianotech list. The Pianotech List is a blog site
for piano technicians.
Piano technician's argue that the term "perfect pitch" would have been
served being called " acute pitch memory".
The word "perfect" implies absolute perfection and with the criteria that
we as piano technicians have deal with, we can poke holes into that argument
on any level. The problem is trying to define what is perfect.
That being said, I've had the pleasure of working as both a musician and
piano technicians,who have demonstrated and extraordinary sense of pitch.

Tom Servinsky, RPT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Bowen" <keith.bowen@-----.com>
To: "'The Klarinet Mailing List'" <klarinet@-----.com>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: [kl] RES: Orchestral Pitch

> People do have so-called perfect pitch, ie they have an aural memory of
> pitches and can reproduce them at will. Of course, the exact pitch depends
> on the instrument, usually a piano, on which they acquired this memory.
> And
> its temperament. So people indeed differ. The accuracy of this phenomenon,
> I
> am told, is in the region 1 - 5 Hz at around a'=440, though I have not
> tested this.
>
> Claiming the whole orchestra was flat is as stupid as the first oboe
> pointing to their tuner and saying that everyone else is out of tune.
>
> Keith
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Baxter [mailto:martinbaxter1@-----.com]
> Sent: 12 November 2010 12:08
> To: The Klarinet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [kl] RES: Orchestral Pitch
>
> Hi Nancy,
> On that theme could one have perfect pitch in Vienna?
> When I was at Manchester University the other four members of my group for
> Aural training all had perfect pitch, as did the tutor (Clifford Knowles,
> who later led the Liverpool Phil.Orch. However they were not all quite in
> tune with each other.Clifford was definitely sharp to A=440Hz, as was
> shown
> at a rather disastrous concert where he was the soloist in the Beethoven
> Concerto with the University Orchestra. Prof. Procter-Gregg had carefully
> tuned the orchestra to his tuning fork, which was A=440. Clifford played
> sharp to the orchestra the whole way through, and afterwards contended
> that
> the orchestra was consistently flat.
> Martin
>
> On 11 Nov 2010, at 23:46, Nancy Buckman wrote:
>
> So..... is there such a thing as perfect pitch? Is one person's more
> perfect than another's? Please discuss!
>
>
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