Klarinet Archive - Posting 000671.txt from 2010/09

From: Jennifer Jones <helen.jennifer@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] Gran Partita ContraBass in BFlat
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 05:36:32 -0400

That is neat.

I see it is similar to wikipedia's cardinal latin number prefixes.
Some of the suffixes look a bit different from the table in wikipedia.
For example, quadret has dropped the i and the u. Sexet appears to
have dropped the a, septimet has either added an m or shifted from em
to im (the ordinal version) and octo has dropped its last o.

duet, triet, quadret, quinquet, sexet, septimet, octet, novemet

I would have liked to take latin.

-Jennifer

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Roger Hewitt
<rogerclarinet@-----.uk> wrote:
> What I meant about the confusion about ordinal/cardinal is that some of t=
he prefices are officially ordinal, some cardinal, but all have been used (=
sometimes incorrectly therefore) for the cardinal use of a count of the num=
ber of parts. =A0If we were to use only cardinal prefices the names would h=
ave been duet, triet, quadret, quinquet, sexet, septimet, octet, novemet, t=
hen as before.
> Roger
>
> --- On Sat, 25/9/10, Jennifer Jones <helen.jennifer@-----.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Jennifer Jones <helen.jennifer@-----.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kl] Gran Partita ContraBass in BFlat
>> To: "The Klarinet Mailing List" <klarinet@-----.com>
>> Date: Saturday, 25 September, 2010, 19:17
>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:01 AM,
>> Roger Hewitt <rogerclarinet@-----.uk>
>> wrote:
>> > The prefices basically follow the latin sequence, but
>> at first can't seem to decide whether they are cardinal or
>> ordinal and whether to be abrreviated or not.=A0 The
>> ending is always -et, but the first few are (as always)
>> oddities:>>
>>
>> Regarding the thoughts above:
>> I would think they would be cardinal.=A0 We are not
>> indicating order of
>> anything.=A0 It is indicating how many there are, just
>> as we use regular
>> cardinal numbers (this is *one* [cardinal] message I am
>> sending out.
>> This is not the *first* [ordinal] message I am sending out
>> within the
>> last hour.)=A0 To play Brahms clarinet trio, you don't
>> have to have a
>> duo and a solo in the wings of the stage (not even
>> implied).=A0 All you
>> have to have is the cello, piano and clarinet.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------=
---------------------------------------------------------
>> Regarding the conversation below:
>> But sextet is well established.=A0 I hear that all the
>> time.=A0 But I
>> don't hear dectet or decet.
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 8:23 AM,=A0 <bdaniluk@-----.net>
>> wrote:
>> > no more than 6et would be sexet...
>> >
>> > Sep 25, 2010 09:12:30 AM, klarinet@-----.com
>> wrote:
>> > Suppose 10et would be decet, rather than dectet?
>> >
>> > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Roger Hewitt
>> =A0wrote:
>> >> Surely it would be undecet and dodecet (not extra
>> t) where the c is hard rather than soft despite the
>> following e. =A0After all it is nonet not nontet.
>> >> Roger H
>> >>
>> >> --- On Sat, 25/9/10, Jennifer Jones =A0wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> From: Jennifer Jones
>> >>> Subject: Re: [kl] Gran Partita ContraBass in
>> BFlat
>> >>> To: "The Klarinet Mailing List"
>> >>> Date: Saturday, 25 September, 2010, 11:49
>> >>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 10:30 AM,
>> >>> Keith Bowen
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> [snip]
>> >>> > We are also doing an arrangement of the
>> Masonic
>> >>> Funeral Music, for wind 11et
>> >>>
>> >>> I was wondering what to call an 11et:
>> >>>
>> >>> The best I've come up with is undectet.
>> >>>
>> >>> 12et would be dodectet.
>> >>>
>> >>> http://phrontistery.info/numbers.html
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't hear those words much.
>> >>>
>> >>> 11et and 12et sound just about as good.
>> >>>
>> >>> -Jennifer
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