Klarinet Archive - Posting 000651.txt from 2010/09

From: Roger Hewitt <rogerclarinet@-----.uk>
Subj: Re: [kl] Gran Partita ContraBass in BFlat
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:34:30 -0400

What I meant about the confusion about ordinal/cardinal is that some of the=
prefices are officially ordinal, some cardinal, but all have been used (so=
metimes incorrectly therefore) for the cardinal use of a count of the numbe=
r of parts. If we were to use only cardinal prefices the names would have =
been duet, triet, quadret, quinquet, sexet, septimet, octet, novemet, then =
as before.
Roger

--- On Sat, 25/9/10, Jennifer Jones <helen.jennifer@-----.com> wrote:

> From: Jennifer Jones <helen.jennifer@-----.com>
> Subject: Re: [kl] Gran Partita ContraBass in BFlat
> To: "The Klarinet Mailing List" <klarinet@-----.com>
> Date: Saturday, 25 September, 2010, 19:17
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:01 AM,
> Roger Hewitt <rogerclarinet@-----.uk>
> wrote:
> > The prefices basically follow the latin sequence, but
> at first can't seem to decide whether they are cardinal or
> ordinal and whether to be abrreviated or not.=A0 The
> ending is always -et, but the first few are (as always)
> oddities:>>
> =

> Regarding the thoughts above:
> I would think they would be cardinal.=A0 We are not
> indicating order of
> anything.=A0 It is indicating how many there are, just
> as we use regular
> cardinal numbers (this is *one* [cardinal] message I am
> sending out.
> This is not the *first* [ordinal] message I am sending out
> within the
> last hour.)=A0 To play Brahms clarinet trio, you don't
> have to have a
> duo and a solo in the wings of the stage (not even
> implied).=A0 All you
> have to have is the cello, piano and clarinet.
> =

> =

> -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
--------------------------------------------------------
> Regarding the conversation below:
> But sextet is well established.=A0 I hear that all the
> time.=A0 But I
> don't hear dectet or decet.
> =

> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 8:23 AM,=A0 <bdaniluk@-----.net>
> wrote:
> > no more than 6et would be sexet...
> >
> > Sep 25, 2010 09:12:30 AM, klarinet@-----.com
> wrote:
> > Suppose 10et would be decet, rather than dectet?
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Roger Hewitt
> =A0wrote:
> >> Surely it would be undecet and dodecet (not extra
> t) where the c is hard rather than soft despite the
> following e. =A0After all it is nonet not nontet.
> >> Roger H
> >>
> >> --- On Sat, 25/9/10, Jennifer Jones =A0wrote:
> >>
> >>> From: Jennifer Jones
> >>> Subject: Re: [kl] Gran Partita ContraBass in
> BFlat
> >>> To: "The Klarinet Mailing List"
> >>> Date: Saturday, 25 September, 2010, 11:49
> >>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 10:30 AM,
> >>> Keith Bowen
> >>> wrote:
> >>> [snip]
> >>> > We are also doing an arrangement of the
> Masonic
> >>> Funeral Music, for wind 11et
> >>>
> >>> I was wondering what to call an 11et:
> >>>
> >>> The best I've come up with is undectet.
> >>>
> >>> 12et would be dodectet.
> >>>
> >>> http://phrontistery.info/numbers.html
> >>>
> >>> I don't hear those words much.
> >>>
> >>> 11et and 12et sound just about as good.
> >>>
> >>> -Jennifer
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