Klarinet Archive - Posting 000604.txt from 2010/09

From: Richard D Bush <rbushidioglot@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Noblet 45 C
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:18:38 -0400

Kevin,

I don't know if you or your repairman have worked over this angle or
not, but here's something that might help align the two registers:

Reduce the amount of opening of the Bb/register vent so that it opens
less than the thickness of an American dime. It it is too closed, the
B natural and C right over the register break will be stuffy. It can
then be opened just a bit more. Generally, this lowers the pitches of
B and C just over the register break and also lowers the pitches of
the highest notes in the second register, the high B natural and thumb
only high C.

While this might not solve your problem, it might improve the tuning
somewhat.

Richard Bush

On Sep 23, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Karl Krelove wrote:

Your problem is very similar to the one I have with the Patricola C
that I
bought a couple of years ago. On mine, whether you call the chalumeau
very
sharp or the clarion flat, the two registers aren't in tune with each
other
- the twelfths are too small. I've asked several people, including
Walter
Grabner and Clark Fobes as well as my regular repair guy and no one
seemed
hopeful that I could solve the problem with a barrel or a mouthpiece
(although your Noblet may have a different issue and perhaps may respond
differently). I did find on Ed Polanker's recommendation that a Robert
Morgan 6 mouthpiece seemed to make the register difference much
smaller and,
therefore, more manageable. It's been suggested that a different
register
tube would help, but I haven't tried that yet. Oddly enough, an older
Noblet
that I bought recently from Oliver Seely (it isn't identified with a
model
number - maybe Oliver knows what it is) has none of the problems you're
describing.

Karl

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Fay [mailto:kevin.fay.home@-----.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:48 AM
To: klarinet@-----.com
Subject: [kl] Noblet 45 C

Need a little help here.

About a dozen years ago, I was asked to play the C clarinet part to
Strauss'
Happy Workshop (scored for clarinet in C, 2 in Bb, basset horn and bass,
perhaps in A). A peek at the part convinced me that transposition was
out
of the question - I needed to buy a C clarinet, and fast.

After some telephony and the exercise of my credit card, I became the
proud
owner of a Noblet 45. (I didn't have much choice; at that time, it
appeared
to be the only model in stock anywhere in the U.S.)

It's actually a fine, sturdy little clarinet, but has some intonation
quirks. It plays pretty well in tune from the altissimo down through
the
throat tones - but the chalumeau is quite sharp. For the Strauss this
wasn't much of a problem, as he scored the other four clarinets for
the low
notes. My subsequent use has been generally acceptable, since the parts
tend to dwell on the higher end of the horn.

I'm now playing Berlioz' Harold in Italy, which unfortunately (for my
little
clarinet) has a fair bit of chalumeau in it. Dan Leeson has beaten the
correct usage of C into me, so I dare not transpose the low parts on
Bb. In
order to get the thing in tune, though, at times I have to lip it down
so
far that the tone suffers.

Thoughts? I know that W. Grabner makes a specialty C mouthpiece, but
his
site states that it's to help the throat tones (which on my horn are
just
fine). I've tried my entire drawer full of mouthpieces - while it helps
response to use a slightly smaller tip opening, none of them have
helped the
intonation a whit.

I believe that the Noblet 45 is a more cylindrically bored instrument,
without a great deal of undercutting of the tone holes. Would a
specialty
barrel help? Any other ideas?

Thanks in advance,

kjf

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