Klarinet Archive - Posting 000073.txt from 2010/06

From: "Keith Bowen" <keith.bowen@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] clarinets in original key
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 18:19:48 -0400

Just been following up on Vianna da Motta, of whom I confess I had not
heard. He was the last pupil of Liszt, which puts the use of the bass in A
in a good context, since Liszt was the next after Wagner to use this
instrument (in the Dante Symphony). Liszt possibly also influenced Arthur
Sullivan, who used it in The Golden Legend not long after he was Liszt's
host in London. But at this time (A Patria is 1908) the bass in A was quite
frequently used, pretty much whenever a bass was called and the sopranos
were in A. Often in bass clef.

It is odd, however, that in A Patria the bass does not change to Bb with the
sopranos; Liszt didn't do this. I will check the score next time I'm at the
British Library.

Keith

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jordan Selburn [mailto:jselburn@-----.net] =

Sent: 03 June 2010 16:19
To: The Klarinet Mailing List
Subject: Re: [kl] clarinets in original key

Regardless of cost sometimes it's just not feasible to have the right
instrument. I went to an orchestra rehearsal last week, ecstatic at the rare
chance to play bass clarinet for an entire symphony (Vianna da Motta's A'
Patria). When I=A0started to glance through the part during warm ups, howev=
er,
the ominous words "Em La" jumped out and shook me like a 7.5 earthquake.
It's not just a few passages, either -the entire work=A0is written for bass
clarinet in A; oddly, the soprano clarinets are in Bb for two of the
movements.

This is a transposition that I have simply never needed to practice and so
I'm now faced with either=A0trying to come up to speed very quickly or
plugging 12 pages of notes=A0into the computer. I've already started on the
latter (being a wimp, I guess)=A0which has the=A0side benefit of cleaning u=
p a
part that=A0is written in mediocre manuscript with the extra "bonus" of not
including the key signature at the start of each line.

Cheers,
Jordan

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From: Robert Howe <arehow@-----.net>
To: The Klarinet Mailing List <klarinet@-----.com>
Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 5:57:46 PM
Subject: Re: [kl] clarinets in original key

Why not just own a set of clarinets and play what is requested unless=A0 =

there is some over arching=A0 technical problem?=A0 A set of clarinets in=
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A, Bb and C is no more expensive than an oboe and English horn.=A0 And=A0 =

we oboists use the oboe d'amore for Bach.

Cheers

RH
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