Klarinet Archive - Posting 000216.txt from 2010/05

From: "Dan Leeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Clarinet in C
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 13:47:32 -0400

I almost never played the piccolo clarinet parts. I did Til Eulenspiegel
once on an E-flat, and one of the Mahler symphonies also on E-flat though
the part called for a D. But if I were playing today, I would have a D made
for me.

I do not think that my conception of what instrument to play on is more
finely attuned than the composer's perception. In effect, the use of a
clarinet pitch not called for by the composer runs the risk of producing a
sonic character that is not what the composer had in mind.

Dan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Baxter" <martinbaxter1@-----.com>
To: "The Klarinet Mailing List" <klarinet@-----.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [kl] Clarinet in C

> On this topic Dan how do you feel about D clarinet parts being played, as
> they almost always are, on the Eflat clarinet.
> Martin
> On 21 May 2010, at 23:48, Dan Leeson wrote:
>
>> And some 15 years ago, when I first began banging on the C clarinet drum
>> on
>> this web site, suggesting that clarinetists had no business deciding
>> which
>> to use when playing but should respect the composer's request, there was
>> a
>> great deal of rejection of my philosophy. I may have been a prophet
>> ahead
>> of my time. Every symphonic clarinetist should have an A, B-flat, and C
>> clarinet at all gigs. It should be a condition of employment.
>>
>> Dan Leeson
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Keith Bowen" <keith.bowen@-----.com>
>> To: "'The Klarinet Mailing List'" <klarinet@-----.com>
>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [kl] Clarinet in C
>>
>>
>>> I have had an Amati C for several years, and also bought two in Prague
>>> for
>>> US friends. They do play nicely and are incredible value. I did some
>>> work
>>> on
>>> the intonation (following Clark Fobes valuable advice on his website);
>>> the
>>> oldest one needed a lot of work, but the more recent ones very little.
>>> They
>>> have had strong development in the last few years. They really are fine
>>> for
>>> the use you describe, and the conductor of my pro-am orchestra commented
>>> favourably when I and the professional first used them in Beethoven 5.
>>> He
>>> felt the different sound quality was striking and important. I have
>>> played
>>> them against the cheaper Noblets and Buffets and prefer the Amatis.
>>>
>>> I have recently indulged myself in a Wurlitzer C to match my Reform
>>> Boehm
>>> A
>>> and Bb, but that is because I am playing more Harmoniemusik, in which C
>>> is
>>> very common and exposed. And it was an indulgence.
>>>
>>> There are hundreds of works that call for the C. Clarinet manuals
>>> throughout
>>> the nineteenth century remark on the different tone: more penetrating
>>> and
>>> brighter, and how composers must allow for this. It is, in my view, a
>>> mistake to try to make a C sound like a Bb, or to play the parts on a
>>> Bb.
>>>
>>> Keith Bowen
>>>
>>
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