Klarinet Archive - Posting 000076.txt from 2010/03

From: "Dan Leeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Wenzel Fuchs and his arrangement with Mozart
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:43:22 -0400

I remember playing it on three clarinets, basset horn and bass. And it is
still pizza.

As for Artie Shaw, I could forgive him anything. After all he went to bed
with Lana Turner, Eva Gardner, and 6 other wives all equally beautiful. I'm
surprised he lived so long

Dan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Bryant (TT)" <michaelbryant@-----.net>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [kl] Wenzel Fuchs and his arrangement with Mozart

> Dan, my gratitude should not go unrecorded, but, but, to offer you a pizza
> would cause a health risk. Please consult a physician before accepting it.
> I can recommend less taxing regional traditions, North Indian, Sri Lankan,
> Thai, Vietnamese, Japanese, various Chinese (Peking and it derivatives,
> Szechuan & Hunan (popular in the US), Cantonese (best known outside
> China). I have avoided pizzas ever since the conference at Oberlin in
> 1985. That was the first and probably last time I made the front cover of
> 'The Clarinet' magazine (the umpteenth from the bottom of the photo)
> playing Black Box Music, a musical version of multiple Chinese whispers. I
> was in a small group with Jerry and Linda Pierce and Artie Shaw eating at
> the same Pizza place each night and staying until closing time. Artie Shaw
> was happiest talking about fishing and astronomy. Having this heuristic
> success on your hands, it should not be wasted; next stop Austin.
> MB
> PS The Peters version of the Adagio from K 361 may well re-appear, in the
> privacy of domestic music-making, as a quintet for three clarinets, basset
> horn and bass.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 6:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [kl] Wenzel Fuchs and his arrangement with Mozart
>
>
>> Actually the volume of the Peters edition that contains the string
>> quintet
>> version of K. 361, has broken the work up into two separate quintets.
>> One
>> consists of movements 1, 2, 3 and 7, while the other is a pastiche of the
>> other movements combined with two string quintet versions of music for
>> wind
>> octet that are by no means accepted as Mozart original compositions. I
>> think
>> the K. listing is 196e.
>>
>> I just didn't want you getting confused when you discovered more K. 361
>> music in the Peters edition than you planned for.
>>
>> What you really want is just the slow movement of 361 and that is in the
>> first of the two string quintet versions.
>>
>> There is a long chapter in my book on the gran Partitta that deals with
>> the
>> colossal screw up of those two string quintet arrangement of 361. It was
>> practically criminal of Peters to have made those (or I should say
>> "invented") two arrangement and pass them off as Mozart's work. But you
>> don't need to look at that chapter if all you are trying to do is to
>> create
>> a version of the slow movement that Fuchs played.
>>
>> Mind you, I am not at all sure that the Peters edition was the source of
>> what Fuchs played, but it was as close as I could get for you.
>>
>> The fee for all this exhaustive and terribly hard work is one pizza.
>>
>> Dan Leeson
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Bryant (TT)" <michaelbryant@-----.net>
>> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 8:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: [kl] Wenzel Fuchs and his arrangement with Mozart
>>
>>
>>> Thank you Dan for a clear unidirectional answer that I can work on
>>> and will borrow and inspect a copy the Peters Edition (Vol 1).
>>> MB
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 3:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [kl] Wenzel Fuchs and his arrangement with Mozart
>>>
>>>
>>>> There have been several arrangements of movements of K. 361 for string
>>>> quintet, and the first violin could easily have been played on a
>>>> clarinet
>>>> or
>>>> an oboe or clarinet. At least one of the string quintet arrangements
>>>> has
>>>> been published, and is part of the Peters publication of the complete
>>>> string
>>>> quintets of Mozart.
>>>>
>>>> I cannot comment on the quality of the Peters arrangement of K. 361,
>>>> which
>>>> might not be the source for the performance of Fuchs, but it is a place
>>>> for
>>>> Michael Bryant to consider. The string arrangement does not have a
>>>> string
>>>> bass as part of the band but that is not a reason to eliminate it from
>>>> consideration. It doubles the cello part.
>>>>
>>>> The arranger of the Youtube presentation is named Denis Caïozzi if that
>>>> is
>>>> of any help. You might be able to chase him down.
>>>>
>>>> And Fuchs plays magnificently, in my opinion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dan Leeson
>>>
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