Klarinet Archive - Posting 000075.txt from 2010/03
From: "Michael Bryant (TT)" <michaelbryant@-----.net> Subj: Re: [kl] Wenzel Fuchs and his arrangement with Mozart Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:25:21 -0400
Dan, my gratitude should not go unrecorded, but, but, to offer you a pizza
would cause a health risk. Please consult a physician before accepting it. I
can recommend less taxing regional traditions, North Indian, Sri Lankan,
Thai, Vietnamese, Japanese, various Chinese (Peking and it derivatives,
Szechuan & Hunan (popular in the US), Cantonese (best known outside China).
I have avoided pizzas ever since the conference at Oberlin in 1985. That was
the first and probably last time I made the front cover of 'The Clarinet'
magazine (the umpteenth from the bottom of the photo) playing Black Box
Music, a musical version of multiple Chinese whispers. I was in a small
group with Jerry and Linda Pierce and Artie Shaw eating at the same Pizza
place each night and staying until closing time. Artie Shaw was happiest
talking about fishing and astronomy. Having this heuristic success on your
hands, it should not be wasted; next stop Austin.
MB
PS The Peters version of the Adagio from K 361 may well re-appear, in the
privacy of domestic music-making, as a quintet for three clarinets, basset
horn and bass.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [kl] Wenzel Fuchs and his arrangement with Mozart
> Actually the volume of the Peters edition that contains the string quintet
> version of K. 361, has broken the work up into two separate quintets. One
> consists of movements 1, 2, 3 and 7, while the other is a pastiche of the
> other movements combined with two string quintet versions of music for
> wind
> octet that are by no means accepted as Mozart original compositions. I
> think
> the K. listing is 196e.
>
> I just didn't want you getting confused when you discovered more K. 361
> music in the Peters edition than you planned for.
>
> What you really want is just the slow movement of 361 and that is in the
> first of the two string quintet versions.
>
> There is a long chapter in my book on the gran Partitta that deals with
> the
> colossal screw up of those two string quintet arrangement of 361. It was
> practically criminal of Peters to have made those (or I should say
> "invented") two arrangement and pass them off as Mozart's work. But you
> don't need to look at that chapter if all you are trying to do is to
> create
> a version of the slow movement that Fuchs played.
>
> Mind you, I am not at all sure that the Peters edition was the source of
> what Fuchs played, but it was as close as I could get for you.
>
> The fee for all this exhaustive and terribly hard work is one pizza.
>
> Dan Leeson
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Bryant (TT)" <michaelbryant@-----.net>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 8:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [kl] Wenzel Fuchs and his arrangement with Mozart
>
>
>> Thank you Dan for a clear unidirectional answer that I can work on
>> and will borrow and inspect a copy the Peters Edition (Vol 1).
>> MB
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 3:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [kl] Wenzel Fuchs and his arrangement with Mozart
>>
>>
>>> There have been several arrangements of movements of K. 361 for string
>>> quintet, and the first violin could easily have been played on a
>>> clarinet
>>> or
>>> an oboe or clarinet. At least one of the string quintet arrangements
>>> has
>>> been published, and is part of the Peters publication of the complete
>>> string
>>> quintets of Mozart.
>>>
>>> I cannot comment on the quality of the Peters arrangement of K. 361,
>>> which
>>> might not be the source for the performance of Fuchs, but it is a place
>>> for
>>> Michael Bryant to consider. The string arrangement does not have a
>>> string
>>> bass as part of the band but that is not a reason to eliminate it from
>>> consideration. It doubles the cello part.
>>>
>>> The arranger of the Youtube presentation is named Denis Caïozzi if that
>>> is
>>> of any help. You might be able to chase him down.
>>>
>>> And Fuchs plays magnificently, in my opinion.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan Leeson
>>
>>
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