Klarinet Archive - Posting 000088.txt from 2010/02

From: "g" <kahngr@-----.edu>
Subj: Re: [kl] Buffet Chaddash Bb Clarinet Barrel
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 07:33:30 -0500

First, my sincere thanks to all who have taken the time to share their
expertise and respond to my dilemma! I think I will, if necessary,
integrate the wonderful suggestions presented. To wit, I liberally
coated the barrel with (Muncy Winds) bore oil, with ring on, and left it
to allow time to have effect. This eve, I will no doubt check how much
oil was absorbed, and if warranted apply a second coat. Rehearsing this
eve, I can take/use the stock R13 Buffet barrel. I will most likely
wait three days -- and, if the ring is still readily removable -- will
at that time apply perhaps three tiny dabs of shellac equally spaced to
hold it in place. Thank you again, to all!

g :-)>

Nitai Levi wrote:
> I disagree with this. I'm familiar with all those methods and consider gluing the ring the best method. Shrinking the ring has disadvantages. Shimming can be done with many materials but there are still problems that I don't like. I can explain the disadvantages of these methods if you want. Gluing depends a lot of the type of glue. Super glue for example is especially bad for this purpose. I found that the best glue for this is shellac. It has all the advantages the other methods don't but without the problems.
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> To give credit, I first learned this from repairer Gordon Palmer and later found it myself too.
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> From: Bill Hausmann <bhausmann1@-----.net>
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Sent: Wed, February 17, 2010 3:28:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [kl] Buffet Chaddash Bb Clarinet Barrel
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> At 08:08 AM 2/16/2010, you wrote:
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>> Hello:
>> I have a Chaddash Bb Clarinet barrel. The top ring comes off when I disassemble my R13; not loose enough to rattle... I do not believe it is from lack of humidity, as I keep a damp (distilled water) Planet Waves humidifier in (Buffet) case -- which is further kept in a zippered Olathe bag.
>> Are these rings a simple friction fit? Or, is a tad of a glue or epoxy used? I have two other similar Buffet barrels, with nary a problem. As to age(s), my 'net was made in 1999, and I'd assume barrels to be of similar vintage.
>> Any/all suggestions -- 'specially if you've experienced (and repaired!) similar -- will be very much appreciated!
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>> g :-)>
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> Every piece of wood is different. In any case DO NOT use any form of glue on the ring, and get it shimmed or shrunk as soon as possible. The ring is there to prevent the tenon socket from cracking, so it must be on tight. If it is glued, you cannot tell that it is loose.
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> Bill Hausmann
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> If you have to mic a saxophone, the rest of the band is TOO LOUD!
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