Klarinet Archive - Posting 000202.txt from 2009/11

From: "Forest Aten" <forestaten@-----.com>
Subj: RE: [kl] Musicians Protest use of canned music...by Texas Ballet Theatre...in the new multi-million dollar Winspear Hall
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:58:02 -0500

Fred....

The point is....the work the musicians do....has value. The decision of the MET's board to (post contract) to use that
work to make more money....than was negotiated against....made it necessary (per contract terms) to renegotiate the
contract....this to take into account the additional revenue made as a result of the musicians work.

Considering the amount of money involved....the musicians didn't do as well as they should have.

-----Original Message-----
From: Fred [mailto:vze2bsbs@-----.net]
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 4:48 PM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: RE: [kl] Musicians Protest use of canned music...by Texas Ballet Theatre...in the new multi-million dollar
Winspear Hall

But they weren't doing anything MORE to get that much more pay. I
would have LOVED someone to come to me one weekday morning and say,
"hey Fred, we just raised your salary $28000 and you don't have to do
anything more". WOW. I am stunned. But happy for them.

Fred

At 05:42 PM 11/29/2009, you wrote:
>And....they WERE doing something.....performing. The company wanted
>to use the musician's WORK to profit....so the media
>portion of their contract was reviewed and negotiated.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Fred [mailto:vze2bsbs@-----.net]
>Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 4:37 PM
>To: klarinet@-----.org
>Subject: RE: [kl] Musicians Protest use of canned music...by Texas
>Ballet Theatre...in the new multi-million dollar
>Winspear Hall
>
>Are you saying that the musicians get $28000 MORE without doing
>anything more because their images are used to make a profit for the
>Met? Holy bananas WOW.
>
>Fred
>
>
>
>At 05:16 PM 11/29/2009, you wrote:
> >And...the Met Orchestra has negotiated a media contract that deals
> >with all types of media use, which I believe is about
> >an additional $28,000 per year in salary....
> >
> >We'll be doing the same thing in Dallas, with the opera during the
> >next contract negotiation.
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Dee Flint [mailto:deeflint01@-----.net]
> >Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 3:48 PM
> >To: klarinet@-----.org
> >Subject: Re: [kl] Musicians Protest use of canned music...by Texas
> >Ballet Theatre...in the new multi-million dollar
> >Winspear Hall
> >
> >Yes the Met thing is really not at all the same. It's purpose is to earn
> >money by getting in an audience that could not or would not travel to NYC.
> >Afterall, it's cost prohibitive to attend the Met if you live in Denver nor
> >even Michigan.
> >
> >Dee
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Fred" <vze2bsbs@-----.net>
> >To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> >Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 2:40 PM
> >Subject: Re: [kl] Musicians Protest use of canned music...by Texas Ballet
> >Theatre...in the new multi-million dollar Winspear Hall
> >
> >
> > > Sounds sort of like what the Met Opera in New York is doing - the MET in
> > > HD in the theaters IS video and audio recording. But at the Met Opera
> > > house its all live.
> > >
> > > Fred
> > >
> > > At 01:57 PM 11/29/2009, you wrote:
> > >>At 11:17 AM 11/29/2009, you wrote:
> > >>>Well if you ask me, it sounds like that's the beginning of the end for
> > >>>the ballet around here. If they can't even manage to hire a live
> > >>>orchestra for the one ballet everyone takes their kids to see (ballet
> > >>>fans or not), their days are numbered.
> > >>
> > >>Why don't they go all the way and just show a VIDEO of the ballet?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Bill Hausmann
> > >>
> > >>If you have to mic a saxophone, the rest of the band is TOO LOUD!
> > >>
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