Klarinet Archive - Posting 000047.txt from 2009/11

From: "Forest Aten" <forestaten@-----.com>
Subj: RE: [kl] Interesting C clarinet part
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:46:06 -0500

Keith

In years of orchestral bass clarinet playing...I've encountered very few orchestral parts using the extended low range
of the bass.

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Bowen [mailto:bowenk@-----.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:56 PM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: RE: [kl] Interesting C clarinet part

Dan,

I found fifty-seven works using the bass in A. Only one descended below E,
and that was Eb, in the Berg Four Early Songs. I believe your Selmer had
that fitted - certainly others in that Selmer batch did, as did 20th Century
Heckels. If you know anything lower I need to know about it!

So what would you do with those low notes, apart from give nice vibrations
to the flutist sitting in front of you? To my knowledge, the only scores
using lower notes (e.g. Shostakovich, Rachmaninoff) only use Bb basses.

Keith Bowen

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Leeson [mailto:dnleeson@-----.net]
Sent: 07 November 2009 22:19
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: Re: [kl] Interesting C clarinet part

You are absolutely right Roger. One cannot hold down a bass clarinet chair
in a symphony orchestra today without the low C. When I had my bass
clarinet in A made, I asked for the same thing, but Selmer refused. If I
were to do it again today, I'd have Fox make a low C bass in A for me.

Dan Leeson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Hewitt" <rogerclarinet@-----.uk>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [kl] Interesting C clarinet part

I see plenty of low Ds on Bass Clarinet parts (and occasionally Cs) and I
just wish I could afford an instrument to go there. The "standard" is Eb,
course, but many composers would expect the low C extension to be available
in professional bands and orchestras.

Roger Hewitt

--- On Sat, 7/11/09, Dan Leeson <dnleeson@-----.net> wrote:

> From: Dan Leeson <dnleeson@-----.net>
> Subject: Re: [kl] Interesting C clarinet part
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Date: Saturday, 7 November, 2009, 19:46
> That is probably true. Even the
> best of us would find it difficult to create a usable harp
> part. And clarinets are particularly bummered up
> because of the added complexity of being a transposing
> instrument.
>
> I once played a Sousa piece (don't remember which one, but
> it was a suite of some sort) that called for a low D on the
> bass clarinet. It was a perfectly good note, but I
> think that Sousa may have been uncertain about the lower
> limits of a clarinet.
>
> Dan Leeson
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Vaccaro" <mike@-----.com>
> To: <Klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [kl] Interesting C clarinet part
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>
> > I think that many times orchestrators and composers
> don't know what our instruments do or sometimes even the
> range. I run across this quite often even with fine
> composer/orchestrators.
> > Mike Vaccaro
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> > From: "Clark Fobes" <claroneman@-----.net>
> > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:09 PM
> > To: <Klarinet@-----.org>
> > Subject: [kl] Interesting C clarinet part
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I was subbing for a rehearsal of Othello with the
> SF Opera a few days ago
> >> and was very interested to see a written low D in
> the 2nd clarinet part
> >> which in that section was for C clarinet. I
> wonder if Verdi was writing for
> >> a specific instrument or if he just did not know
> that the soprano clarinets
> >> did not go that low? Verdi was such a wonderful
> orchestrator by the time he
> >> got to his late Operas that you would think he
> would be aware of the range
> >> of all of the woodwinds.
> >>
> >> Clark W Fobes
> >>
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