Klarinet Archive - Posting 000022.txt from 2009/09

From: billfoss47@-----.net
Subj: Re: [kl] Mozart Bassethorn trios - key?
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:06:01 -0400

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> The subject of Mozart's trios, K 439b or KA 229 -- depending on your favo=
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> Koechel version, has come up a few times, notably:=20
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> http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/Klarinet/2003/04/001190.txt=20
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> For those not familiar, I'll provide a summary from=20
> http://www.mozartforum.com :=20
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> "Composed supposedly in 1783 in Vienna;=20
> but time determination not certain; . . . No doubt written=20
> originally for 3 Bthns, but early publications for various instruments fo=
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> performer preference; division of pieces into 5 Divertimenti no doubt put=
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> origin time undetermined but probably later in Vienna perhaps 1787=20
> or 1788 (Flothuis-MJB 1973/74)."=20
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> In all the versions I've seen, most of the movements are in the written k=
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> C (except of course the bassoon part in the 2 clarinet & bassoon version)=
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> The reconstructions for 3 basset horns, by Trio di Clarone and others can=
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> played by 3 basset horns, if you have them; 3 bass clarinets, with one to=
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> C; or any 3 like clarinets if one goes to low C. You can play it with 2=
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> Bb clarinets and a bass to low C, and in fact the version by Alea press (=
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> http://www.bassclarinet.org/alea/ ) labels the parts that way, though to =
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> mind/ear it puts the rumbly bass along way below the other 2 parts.=20
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> OK so now (finally) a question: Why not play the trios on 2 Bb plus bass=
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> (no extension needed) at what we think is the original pitch? So it would=
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> be mostly in written G, the 2 Bb clarinets would play a fourth lower than=
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> written bassethorn parts and the bass play a fifth higher than the 3rd=20
> basset horn part. Has anyone tried this? It would have the=20
> advantage of being at original (probably) pitch, always a plus to purists=
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> keep things not too squeaky and not too rumbly. Oliver Seely's site=20
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> ( http://www.csudh.edu/oliver/clarmusi/clarmusi.htm ) has the trios and I=
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> would try this myself but I'm a Sibelius guy and can't read his version o=
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