Klarinet Archive - Posting 000211.txt from 2009/03

From: Fred Jacobowitz <fbjacobo@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Glissando vs. portamento (was: Rhapsody in Blue)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:37:09 -0400

Michael,
Please give us some factual documentation about your assertions of
Klezmer influence on either Gershwin or Copland. As far as I know,
neither had anything to do with Klezmer (Nor, for that matter, did
Benny Goodman, who was fully assimilated, but probably had heard
Klezmer as a kid). Saying "probably" because "you'd like to think so"
is a cop out. That's how urban legends get started. As for
"Rhapsody's" gliss (colloquially called a 'smear' by jazz players),
Go to the archives for a superb post about it by Dan Leeson. Suffice
to say that you're wrong about that.

Fred Jacobowitz

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On Mar 30, 2009, at 4:38 PM, Michael Nichols wrote:

> I think what it comes down to is that Gershwin originally wrote it at
> the piano for himself to play. (You can buy a recording of the piano
> roll version with Gershwin playing and listen yourself.) So it's a
> glissando. But the practice is to play it at least partly as a
> continuous glissando (a.k.a portamento) on the clarinet.
>
> Personally, I think the terms "rip" and "smear" are a lot
> clearer. :-)
>
> The joke (I think) was to play the opening solo klezmer style (which
> is why it sounds more like klezmer in the 1924 recording, with the
> laughing effect in the clarinet). Of course, Gershwin himself makes
> reference to klezmer in the piece itself by introducing a 3+3+2
> (bulgar) rhythm, which might have been the clarinetist's inspiration
> for the joke, for all I know.
>
> I think the end of the Copland Concerto is also a reference to klezmer
> (music both Benny Goodman and Aaron Copland probably grew up listening
> to), albeit in reverse. A lot of klezmer tunes end with an upward
> smear and two quick notes making an octave skip. Copland seems to end
> prematurely with an octave skip and then throws in the smear, which
> seems like another little musical in-joke to me. At least, I'd like
> to think it is.
>
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