Klarinet Archive - Posting 000127.txt from 2009/03

From: Martin Baxter <martinbaxter@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Rhapsody in Blue
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:32:05 -0400

Jack Brymer's advice was to hold the note down with lip and throat
while you took the fingers off and THEN let it come op (as it does
naturally) while controlling it with lip and breath. It does work.
Martin
On 27 Mar 2009, at 11:45, Joseph Wakeling wrote:

> MICHAEL MARMER LINDA MARMER wrote:
>> This is from a professional trombonist in the Chicago area.
>>
>> Mike Marmer
>>
>> It is not a "rip" Is IS a Glissando. It's done by gradually removing
>> fingers covering the holes. ANY Clarinet teacher can help her with
>> this.
>> All serious HS & College students practice this constantly. It is
>> one of
>> the required excerpts for all professional Clarinet auditions.
>
> Well, this kind of suggests to me that the trombonist actually doesn't
> understand what the problem is ... :-)
>
> The comment about 'not a rip, a glissando' is interesting because of
> course 'rip' has a very specific meaning for brass players which is
> very
> different from the 'slide' effect of a glissando on trombone or
> clarinet.
>
> But apart from that it doesn't seem to me to actually give you a
> lot of
> info on how to solve the problem. You _do_ slide fingers during
> gliss,
> but it's not the dominant part of how you actually perform an
> effective
> glissando -- it just looks that way to anyone watching. It's the
> tongue
> that actually has principal control of the slide.
>
> I just tested my own 'Rhapsody' gliss a few times and found that in
> fact
> once I'd started the gliss by creating the 'leaky tube' that Tony P.
> speaks of in the link I posted, I could remove my fingers _entirely_
> without affecting anything.
>
> The problem is that now I have the tongue movement right I actually
> can't easily go back to what I was doing when I was first trying to
> play
> that gliss. But I do remember that I spent ages and ages trying to
> create the effect by sliding fingers off slowly one by one, which was
> kind of what had been described to me as 'what to do', without any
> success.
>
> Then one day something just 'clicked' and I suddenly found myself able
> to perform the gliss reliably. I had no idea what I was doing but it
> was quite apparent that the fingers _weren't_ in control, it was more
> like the fingers had 'handed control over' to something else which I
> wasn't consciously aware of but would do what I wanted.
>
> Tony P.'s comments about the 'leaky tube' were kind of a 'eureka!'
> moment because it finally clicked that this was indeed what I was
> doing
> -- sliding my fingers off (all) the keys just enough to create tiny
> gaps, which lets the tongue take over control of pitch.
>
> I'm still buggered if I know what my tongue is _actually_ doing during
> all this, but that's less important than knowing that I can give it
> control via this 'leaky' technique, and then it can sort things out
> for
> itself.
>
> -- Joe
>
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