Klarinet Archive - Posting 000141.txt from 2009/02

From: kurtheisig@-----.net
Subj: Re: [kl] shurnken tenon corks
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:45:21 -0500

Cork rots with excessive greasing. Once a cork has settled in after a few months it should possibly never be greased again. A cork treated that way will often go 10 or more years before it needs replacing. Once in awhile a little grease to keep it live won't hurt.

School teachers often tell kids to grease daily, and our rental horns come in all the time with corks falling off of them. The kids that are "neglectful" and don't grease, have corks in good condition.

-----Original Message-----
>From: ksmill <reedman99@-----.net>
>Sent: Feb 7, 2009 8:48 AM
>To: klarinet@-----.org
>Subject: Re: [kl] shurnken tenon corks
>
>Tape or Floss for temporary repairs is fine.
>
>HOWEVER, there is nothing quite like _top quality natural cork_ if installed
>correctly - using a proper thickness & cut to the proper dimensions. Of
>course, one has to treat the cork properly after installation. For some
>people, a properly beveled tenon cork is a luxury they have never
>experienced - done right it protects the Joints of the Clarinet & makes for
>super easy assembly.
>
>Unfortunately many clarinetists _MISTREAT_ their corks & suffer the
>consequences. Clarinet manufacturers provide areas on tenons for CORK, not
>for Teflon tape. Teflon tape is expensive & how does one know, definitively,
>when a tenon connection (UL/barrel, UL&LJ @ bridge and LJ/Bell) is seated &
>attached exactly as it should be to protect the wood parts of the Clarinet -
>could there be a gap in coverage which could result in damage to the wood?
>
>Using lubricating products that kill the cork or cause it to permanently
>compress - should and can easily be avoided. Use a natural lubricant like
>Lanolin, which can be bought as Lansinoh (yes for breast feeding mothers &
>other skin conditions) or a medical grade Lanolin from your local druggist.
>Inexpensive & a little tube will last many years. Consider buying a
>lubricant like Doctor Slick from Doctor's products - excellent & it WILL
>nurture the cork. Remember, that if one OVER-applies a product no good will
>ever result. Some clarinet players apply cork grease like they salt their
>food. They don't check first to see if the addition of salt (or, cork grease
>here) is truly necessary. With lubricant this results in a condition called
>LOTSA EXCESS LUBRICANT and will smother the life out of cork & get in the
>wrong places, too.
>
>Also, it mkaes sense to avoid compression by not leaving instruments
>assembled for long periods of time. During the time that the clarinet is
>not assembled, the corks have an opportunity to breathe & de-compress,
>returning to a prior state.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Christophe ASTIER" <christophe.astier@-----.fr>
>To: <klarinet@-----.org>
>Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:46 AM
>Subject: Re: [kl] shurnken tenon corks
>
>
>>I fully agree with other posters :30 years ago, I got tired of having to
>>grease these corks
>> every next day, and I gave a try to teflon tape. I never went back,
>> neither did I ever use
>> grease since. When I bought a set of new Buffet instruments last year,
>> the first thing
>> I did was to wrap the corks (they were clean and dry) with some teflon
>> film, and put the
>> grease stick in a drawer. Never had any sort of sticky or wobbling tenon
>> problem for decades...
>>
>> Regards.
>> Christophe.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Glenn Kantor" <klarinet@-----.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:52 PM
>> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
>> Subject: Re: [kl] shurnken tenon corks
>>
>>>
>>> Teflon tape is the quickest and easiest method for an emergency fix.
>>>
>>> Waxed dental floss also works.
>>>
>>> Glenn B Kantor (GBK)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bill Foss" <billfoss47@-----.net>
>>> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:24 PM
>>> Subject: [kl] shurnken tenon corks
>>>
>>>
>>>> Does anyone have a way to expand a shrunken tenon or mouthpiece cork
>>>> besides applying the heat of a match (or other) flame to the cork ?
>>>>
>>>> Bill Foss
>>>> U.S. Army Retired
>>>> USC Aiken, Woodwind Professor
>>>> Director of Bands, Aiken Prep
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