Klarinet Archive - Posting 000404.txt from 2009/01
From: "Keith" <bowenk@-----.com>
Subj: RE: [kl] Copyright Question
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:46:20 -0500
I am pretty sure you are OK in the EU as well, where anything published
whose author/composer has been dead for more than 70 years is public domain.
There are exceptions in some (not all) EU countries including UK for
'orphan' manuscripts that have never been published. These belong to their
owner and are not public domain. Copyright in the printed version belongs to
the first person to publish them and lasts till 70 years after the death of
the first publisher. Hence the difficulty in seeing some early manuscripts,
as owners are paranoid that they will lose their rights.
I had an amusing example recently, at the British Library. I wanted copies
of some pages of a book of about 1780 by Domenico Corelli, a manual for
singers. It had been published in facsimile form about 10 years ago. I went
to the music librarian for the required permission to copy, saying 'I
suppose you won't let me copy this as it's a recently published facsimile'.
He responded 'Quite correct. But why don't you use the original, we have it
downstairs!'
Keith Bowen
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Subject: Re: [kl] Copyright Question
1908, you're golden at least in the US.
Gary
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Bear Woodson wrote:
> I was never good at understanding legalese, and every
> time I think I understand Copyright Issues, someone says
> something to confuse me, again.
>
> Most Copyright Issues are irrelevant to me, since the
> only involvement I have that comes close to altering the
> music by other composers, is occasionally having written a
> Cadenza to a Mozart concerto. In those cases, it is more
> than welcomed to write a Cadenza, and I am clearly giving
> credit to the composer for his Themes that I am altering.
>
> But what if I were to orchestrate the gorgeous "Gaspard
> de la nuit" ("Demons of the night" for piano alone, 1908) by
> Maurice Ravel (1875-1937)? Considering how long he's
> been dead, wouldn't ALL of his works now be in the Public
> Domain? I think a few people have tried to orchestrate it over
> the years, but I'm not sure if I've ever heard a recording of
> an orchestrated version of it. Fortunately there are a few
> really excellent recordings of the piano version available.
>
> (If any of you don't know this work, it is one of THE
> most difficult to play of Virtuoso Piano Works, but it is
> also one of the Most Schmaltzy, Gorgeous and Intriguing
> works ever written! It is music to fit the mood of 3 poems,
> and therefore has 3 movements, but the text of the poems
> should be read separately. It is not a song, nor even a
> narrated work, but is only for piano alone. However few
> pianists can cut the notes at all, much less do it justice for
> its poetic, sensuous styles.)
>
> By the way, what is the progress on the impending
> In-Dog-uration?
>
>
> Bear Woodson
> Tucson, Arizona, USA
>
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