Klarinet Archive - Posting 000155.txt from 2009/01

From: "Daryll Stevens" <DStevens@-----.edu>
Subj: RE: [kl] Re: If Mozart Were Alive Today...
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:41:27 -0500

Just having seen the Flobots, I find their music dynamic, intricate, =
with
excellent ensemble, a musical performance, from highly-skilled =
performers
(wanna hear some great electric viola playing?) A combination of =
beautiful
lyricism, rhythmic drive, and socially progressive texts...What a show!
Which I could move like I used to...Give them a listen!

It's the rhythmic intricacy of rap that appeals to me...and I'm an old
fart classically-trained musician. My kids brought me to this,
particularly my classical cellist/ bass guitarist rocker son...that's =
the
beauty of the musical art...so much out there, no need for limitations! =
As
always, ymmv, but so much to listen to, observe...

Daryll

Daryll Stevens
Music Librarian
Albert Seay Library of Music and Art
Clarinet Instructor
Colorado College
(719) 389-6126
(719) 389-6561

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-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah Bolton [mailto:heart_soul_music@-----.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:11 AM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: RE: [kl] Re: If Mozart Were Alive Today...

It could be that some people listen to certain kinds of music because =
they
want to be associated with a certain social group. I mean, just look at
the 'emo's and their 'screamo' music. Maybe it's the same with rap?
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Actually, I have found one rap song that I like **gasp!!** It's called
Handlebars, by the Flobots. I like it, first of all because it has a
trumpet solo in it, which I think is way kewl! And secondly because the
lyrics are about how "I can do ANYTHING" and they are very forceful due =
to
the musical context in which they are delivered.

*Sarah
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clarinet players are strange, strange creatures.... lol!

> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:57:56 -0500
> From: cealleach@-----.net
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Re: If Mozart Were Alive Today...
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> What is considered risque or off-color is very contextual and defined =
by
social codes and morals. As Dan Leeson very rightly pointed out even =
music
by Mozart deals with risque stubjects even by modern standards.=20
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> Just a thought: The subject matter of music on its own does not define
the good-ness or bad-ness of the music, but the musical treatment of a
subject can. To say that rap music is bad or unmusical because it deals
with sex, drugs and other topics of a risque or off-color leaning =
doesn't
make sense in the same way the 'Figaro' or 'Don Giovanni' are bad for =
the
same reasons. Music, including rap, if done right can be a wonderful
medium for taking on difficult subjects like sex, drugs, etc. John =
Adam's
"Dr. Atomic" is an excellent example of that. Whether or not one likes
John Adams, or rap, or thinks John Adams, or rap, are music is a whole
different kettle of fish.
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> I'm not a rap fan and am hesitant to say that it is bad due solely to
it's content.
> - Kelly W.
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> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Sarah Bolton
>>Sent: Dec 31, 2008 11:22 AM
>>To: klarinet@-----.org
>>Subject: RE: [kl] Re: If Mozart Were Alive Today...
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>>Hahaha! And just take a look at our modern musicals... there is always
off-color humor and a risque scene, or two.
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>>I agree that the content of most rap is not entirely wholesome. I =
don't
listen to it. I also agree that there is good and bad in everything....
perhaps even rap. But I won't be the one to find out what the good rap =
is!
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>>*Sarah
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>>> From: dnleeson@-----.net
>>> To: klarinet@-----.org
>>> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:35:43 -0800
>>> Subject: Re: [kl] Re: If Mozart Were Alive Today...
>>>
>>> No so, Alexander. The central theme of Cosi Fan Tutte is based on=20
>>> lying, cheating, and wife swapping. Marriage of Figaro is also not=20
>>> very innocent, having a heavy theme of "right of the first night"=20
>>> and sexual predation, which is also a major theme of Don Giovanni.
>>>
>>> Dan Leeson
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Alexander Brash"=20
>>> To:=20
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:20 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [kl] Re: If Mozart Were Alive Today...
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>>>> Yeah, rappers talk about sex, drugs, cheating, lying, stealing,=20
>>>> killing, and rape. I can't think of a single Mozart opera on these
topics.
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