Klarinet Archive - Posting 000150.txt from 2009/01

From: "Peter Gentry" <peter.gentry@-----.uk>
Subj: RE: [kl] Rap discussion
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:06:16 -0500

No you misrepresent me. It is necessary to generalise at this level of
discussion otherwise we would need several days to establish the context =
in
which we are debating. Just believe me when I find all the rap I have =
come
into contact with as trivial and mind numbing. My musical tastes cover =
The
Sacred Harp Choral Society,Clarence Williams, Ida Cox, Blind Lemon
Jefferson, King Oliver, Johnny Dodds, Ibert, Glass, Messiaen,
Bach,Handel,Scriabin, Shostakovitch, Britten, Avo Peart, Joplin, Bob =
Dylan,
Doc Watson, Jaqueline Dupre, Jimmie Hendrix, Humph, Julie Foulis, =
Leonard
Bernstein, The Who, The Kinks, Beethoven, Debussy....I could go on for =
pages
(and spell the names incorrectly) but the point is I have a wide
appreciation of music and I still think rap is crap.

regards
Peter Gentry=20

-----Original Message-----
From: clarni bass [mailto:clarnibass@-----.com]=20
Sent: 08 January 2009 12:04
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: RE: [kl] Rap discussion

Now you also misinterpret me.... Can I ask nicely that you don't do it?

>> I don't mind you liking rap, that is your problem.

It is not a problem. I don't like all rap, and actually like only a =
small
part of all the rap I've heard. You can notice that anything I wrote is =
not
about what I like or not, but instead about an objective way to =
understand
rap (or any music). If this was about a type of music which I didn't =
like,
but undesrtood that was good, I wouldn't post since all I could post is =
"I
don't like it". Maybe you are confused and think "I like it =3D good" =
and "I
don't like it =3D bad".=20

>> But don't confuse it with anything=20
>> that is life enhancing or uplifting.

So not only you continue to generalize, you now also think anything that =
is
"enhancing or uplifting" for YOU is also the same for everyone. It is
impossible to continue this since you don't let the facts confuse =
you.... so
I think I'll let you continue post about whatever it is you think the
reality of rap music is without my response to this thread.... you can =
have
a party :-)

--- On Thu, 1/8/09, Peter Gentry <peter.gentry@-----.uk> wrote:

> From: Peter Gentry <peter.gentry@-----.uk>
> Subject: RE: [kl] Rap discussion
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 12:47 PM
> I don't mind you liking rap, that is your problem. But
> don't confuse it with
> anything that is life enhancing or uplifting. Why do you
> want to waste your
> time with an activity that does not enhance and uplift?
> Baffles me.
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> regards
> Peter Gentry=20
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: clarni bass [mailto:clarnibass@-----.com]=20
> Sent: 08 January 2009 09:50
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Rap discussion
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> Those of us who don't believe in some made up fictional
> character being
> responsible for everything might disagree....
> =A0
> Do you claim to know ALL rap...? If not, don't
> generalize about all rap like
> you do (I still don't understand why you do this).
> =A0
> If you dont know all rap, do you understand the rap you do
> know? If not,
> then accept that you don't and that you just don't
> like it.
> =A0
> Not to mention many things you wrote as "facts"
> which were simply wrong.....
> =A0
> In that specific quote (and this is completely
> seperate=A0from anything else I
> think him and his music) Bach=A0is very wrong, and he's
> dead, so he is=A0dead
> wrong....
> =A0
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> --- On Thu, 1/8/09, Peter Gentry
> <peter.gentry@-----.uk> wrote:
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> From: Peter Gentry <peter.gentry@-----.uk>
> Subject: RE: [kl] Rap discussion
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 11:20 AM
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> Obvious realy, it is Bach's definition of music as
> sounds produced to
> enhance and uplift. Not just a guttural steram of
> expectoration. I'm with
> Bach.
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> regards
> Peter Gentry=20
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Charette [mailto:charette@-----.org]=20
> Sent: 08 January 2009 04:01
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: Re: [kl] Rap discussion
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> Bill Hausmann wrote:
> > I saw this posted in a band room today and thought it
> relevant to the=20
> > discussion here on whether rap is music:
> Why is it relevant?
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