Klarinet Archive - Posting 000096.txt from 2009/01

From: "Dan Leeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] K622/Schwenke, was Re: [kl] Speaking of the gran Partitta
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:41:16 -0500

Thanks David. I'm going to let this one go by me. There isn't the
slightest evidence that this piece was related to or derived from the
original. It's just one of dozens of arrangements (or modifications) of
Mozart's music. And while it is a complement to the original for having
been done, it is foolish to think that any of these arrangements have any
serious value to them.

Dan

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Glenn" <davidglenn@-----.net>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:50 AM
Subject: [kl] K622/Schwenke, was Re: [kl] Speaking of the gran Partitta

> Hi Dan,
>
> Haven't had much time for klarinet@-----.org lately so I only just saw this
> post.
>
> If you want to know exactly for which instruments the Schwenke arrangement
> of K622 is, you could ask Pamela Weston who edited a version of the Mozart
> Concerto for Universal in 1996 based on that very arrangement by Schwenke.
> Although she fills two pages ("Preface" and "Remarks Concerning this
> Edition"), it is never clear exactly for which instruments the arrangement
> was. In the preface, she states that the arrangement was published between
> 1799 and 1805 by Böhme of Hamburg and that Schwenke's manuscripts were
> auctioned in 1824. (where? to whom?). Passages which divert from the
> Winterthur manuscript.
>
> Weston makes statements like "resolving inconsistencies" and "must be
> considered correct" which, unfortunately don't help at all. But the
> changes are fascinating, for instance mm 337-338 in the first mvt. are
> changed to rising thirds and fourths as found in mm 148-149. Could well be
> original. Or also not. It's all speculation, I know but I would also love
> to see the originall Schwenke arrangement.
>
> David
>
>
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> Datum: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:05:48 -0800
>> Von: "Dan Leeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>
>> An: "Klarinet" <klarinet@-----.org>
>> Betreff: [kl] Speaking of the gran Partitta
>
>> I finally got hold of an arrangement of K. 361 by C.F.G.Schwencke. The
>> arranger was a composer, editor, keyboard player, and a replacement for
>> C.P.E. Bach as Standkantor in Hamburg in 1788.
>>
>> The edition is published in a modern printing by Edition HH in London
>> (http://www.editionhh.co.uk), and the editor of this modern edition was
>> no
>> less than Christopher Hogwood.
>>
>> All 7 movements are part of the arrangement, which is for oboe (or
>> clarinet
>> or flute or violin), violin, cello, and piano. A long and very well done
>> preface in both English and German will satisfy the curious. The
>> arrangement
>> originally had a third trio for the second minuet, but it was removed for
>> this publication. The presence of this extraneous piece of music shows
>> that
>> the Schenke arrangement was made from the first edition of K. 361 done in
>> Vienna in 1803, which also had this irrelevant trio stuck in, as if the
>> work
>> didn't have enough trios.
>>
>> The clarinet part is in C, and no b-flat transposed part is available.
>>
>> Schwenke is said to have made a transcription of K. 622 for piano
>> quintet,
>> but the precise instrumentation is not given.
>>
>> Dan Leeson
>>
>>
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