Klarinet Archive - Posting 000093.txt from 2009/01

From: Peter Stoll <peterstoll2000@-----.ca>
Subj: [kl] soundproofing
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:28:48 -0500

I've seen some of this exchange; I also wonder about soundproofing at the=
=A0*other* end=A0(apologies if this has already been=A0suggested), but I've=
seen 'case mutes' for saxophones which are large padded contoured plastic =
shells that=A0the sax and your hands go into, with the mouthpiece sticking =
out of the top. To control the sound levels at=A0the source. Not sure what =
it would sound like to play through one of these though!=0A=A0=0APeter Stol=
l=0A=A0=0ANEW WEBSITE! www.peterstoll.ca=0A=A0=0AInstructor of Clarinet and=
Chamber Music,=0AUniversity of Toronto=0A=A0=0AActing Principal Clarinetis=
t, =0AToronto Philharmonia Orchestra=0A=A0=0AClarinetist, Saxophonist=0ATal=
isker Players=0ATrio d'Argento=0AGrand Salon Orchestra=0AERGO Ensemble=0A=
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1:02 -0000 Issue 8141=0A=0Aklarinet Digest 6 Jan 2009 10:01:02 -0000 Issue =
8141=0A=0ATopics (messages 95022 through 95030):=0A=0ARe: It's all a Wind U=
p?=0A=A0=A0=A0 95022 by: Martin Baxter=0A=0ASoundproofing=0A=A0=A0=A0 95023=
by: Steve Hartman=0A=A0=A0=A0 95027 by: Jacob Lindsay=0A=A0=A0=A0 95028 by=
: Matthew Lloyd=0A=0Abuffet parts=0A=A0=A0=A0 95024 by: Michael and Linda M=
armer=0A=A0=A0=A0 95025 by: Bill Foss=0A=A0=A0=A0 95026 by: Michael and Lin=
da Marmer=0A=0ARe: Get of the Rap Soap Box=0A=A0=A0=A0 95029 by: David B. N=
iethamer=0A=0ARe: Finger injury=0A=A0=A0=A0 95030 by: kurtheisig.earthlink.=
net=0A=0AAdministrivia:=0A=0ATo subscribe to the digest, e-mail:=0A=A0=A0=
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5 Jan 2009 19:24:04 +0000=0ATo: klarinet@-----.org=0AFrom: Martin Baxte=
r <martinbaxter@-----.net>=0ASubje=
ct: Re: [kl] It's all a Wind Up?=0AMessage-Id: <7CF4DA88-33F9-48EB-83C4-1D0=
BF9C8D94F@-----.net>=0A=0AThere are surely two distinct questions here: is Ra=
p an art form and=A0 =0Ais it Music.=A0 Sculpture is an art form but I have=
never considered it=A0 =0Ato be music (yes I know it was described as "fro=
zen music" but so=A0 =0Awhat). I would certainly agree rap can be fairly re=
garded as an art- =0Aform, but whether that art-form is a musical one is mo=
re arguable. Is=A0 =0Apoetry a musical art-form or just an art-form? Perhap=
s when it is=A0 =0Aspoken aloud.=A0 Then is the score of Eine Kleine Nachtm=
usik in itself=A0 =0Amusic or is it only music when played?=A0 Suppose I re=
ad the score and=A0 =0Aimagine the performance of it -"auralize" it as this=
is often=A0 =0Adescribed.=A0 AAAARGH .... the men in white coats are at th=
e door!=0AMartin=0AOn 5 Jan 2009, at 19:15, Clif Johnson wrote:=0A=0A> Sinc=
e you have allowed me freedom of expression...I do not like rap.=0A> Porn i=
s art...and I do not like it.=0A>=0A> -------Original Message-------=0A>=0A=
> From: Forest Aten=0A> Date: 1/5/2009 2:01:06 PM=0A> To: klarinet@woodwind=
.org=0A> Subject: RE: [kl] It's all a Wind Up?=0A>=0A> Alexander=0A>=0A> "t=
his stuff".....what "stuff" are you talking about (that matters=A0 =0A> to =
you)?=0A> Does every musical artist have to consult you, so that their musi=
cal=0A> creations pass your narrow definition of "music"?=0A>=0A> Rap is an=
art form...a musical art form. At the core, rap has current=0A> cultural i=
ssues at heart. I don't believe that these issues=A0 =0A> disqualify it as=
=0A>=0A> an art form...or make it non-music. If that's the case for you...I=
=A0 =0A> believe=0A> you have a very narrow definition of what music is or =
could be. Rap=A0 =0A> is (in=0A> fact) a musical art form....with millions =
of participants.=0A>=0A> You have made it clear that you are not and have n=
o desire to be=A0 =0A> one of=0A> those that participate. That's ok....but =
to deride the art form and=A0 =0A> fail to=0A> understand the form's root o=
rigin and importance...is not exactly=A0 =0A> what I=0A> would call valid a=
rgument (disagree?). Simply say, "I don't like=A0 =0A> it"....and=0A> let i=
t go.=0A>=0A> I'm not a big fan of rap....although I've heard some very ama=
zing=A0 =0A> things in=0A> the genre. I do think it's important to listen, =
understand and=A0 =0A> appreciate=0A> art that others produce and many othe=
rs embrace. You don't have to=A0 =0A> like=0A> it...again...that's ok.=0A>=
=0A> Forest=0A>=0A>> -----Original Message-----=0A>> From: Alexander Brash =
[mailto:brash@-----.edu]=0A>> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:31 A=
M=0A>> To: klarinet@-----.org=0A>> Subject: Re: [kl] It's all a Wind Up?=
=0A>>=0A>> If you're suggesting this whole thread has been a troll, I assur=
e you=0A>> it's=0A>> not :) If people don't disagree passionately, what's t=
he point? This=0A>> stuff=0A>> matters to me.=0A>>=0A>>=0A> et-owner@woodwi=
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ibe@-----.org if you get t=
---------=0A=0ADate: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:28:42 -0500=0ATo: <klarinet@woodwi=
nd.org>=0AFrom: "Steve Hartman" <sdh902@-----.net>=0ASubject: [kl]So=
undproofing=0AMessage-id: <2EA5F44E38BB4FDFBDEF8E540EAFFA41@Kitchen>=0A=0AT=
hat's excellent!=0ABe sure that you're practicing either the Eb clarinet or=
the tenor sax when =0Apeople come to look at the neighboring apartments.=
=0A-Steve=0A=0A>In this case, the two affected units are currently empty, w=
hich means I =0A>will be there before them.=A0 Probably good for me.=0A=0AJ=
acob Lindsay =0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0ADate: Mon, 5 Jan 200=
9 14:49:39 -0800 (PST)=0ATo: klarinet@-----.org=0AFrom: Jacob Lindsay <j=
acobmakesnoise@-----.com>=0ASubject: Re: [kl]Soundproofing=0AMessage-ID: <2=
46200.48999.qm@-----.com>=0A=0ABetter yet, I've got an Ab=
.=0A=0AJacob Lindsay=0Ahttp://www.bayimproviser.com/jacoblindsay=0A=0A--- O=
n Mon, 1/5/09, Steve Hartman <sdh902@-----.net> wrote:=0A=0A> From: =
Steve Hartman <sdh902@-----.net>=0A> Subject: [kl]Soundproofing=0A> =
To: klarinet@-----.org=0A> Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 2:28 PM=0A> Th=
at's excellent!=0A> Be sure that you're practicing either the Eb clarinet=
=0A> or the tenor sax when people come to look at the neighboring=0A> apart=
ments.=0A> -Steve=0A> =0A> =0A> > In this case, the two affected units are =
currently=0A> empty, which means I will be there before them.=A0 Probably=
=0A> good for me.=0A> =0A> Jacob Lindsay =0A> =0A> ------------------------=
et-unsubscribe@-----.org i=
=A0 =0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0ADate: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 22:51:0=
6 -0000=0ATo: <klarinet@-----.org>=0AFrom: "Matthew Lloyd" <matthew@matt=
hew-lloyd.co.uk>=0ASubject: RE: [kl]Soundproofing=0AMessage-ID: <!&!AAAAAAA=
AAAAYAAAAAAAAAJpZzrlcphFIpS8vRRo2E6vCgAAAEAAAABZ5gYJ+cktCsvKVyarScUgBAAAAAA=
=3D=3D@-----.uk>=0A=0AThat should sort out several blocks for yo=
u!=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: Jacob Lindsay [mailto:jacobmakes=
noise@-----.org=
=0ASubject: Re: [kl]Soundproofing=0A=0ABetter yet, I've got an Ab.=0A=0AJac=
ob Lindsay=0Ahttp://www.bayimproviser.com/jacoblindsay=0A=0A--- On Mon, 1/5=
/09, Steve Hartman <sdh902@-----.net> wrote:=0A=0A> From: Steve Hart=
man <sdh902@-----.net>=0A> Subject: [kl]Soundproofing=0A> To: klarin=
et@-----.org=0A> Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 2:28 PM=0A> That's excel=
lent!=0A> Be sure that you're practicing either the Eb clarinet=0A> or the =
tenor sax when people come to look at the neighboring=0A> apartments.=0A> -=
Steve=0A> =0A> =0A> > In this case, the two affected units are currently=0A=
> empty, which means I will be there before them.=A0 Probably=0A> good for =
me.=0A> =0A> Jacob Lindsay =0A> =0A> --------------------------------------=
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o: <klarinet@-----.org>=0AFrom: "Michael and Linda Marmer" <mlmarmer@msn=
.com>=0ACc: "Joseph Lechner" <Joseph.Lechner@-----.edu>=0ASubject: buffet pa=
rts=0AMessage-ID: <BAY107-DAV11BEBEDA6EFDC76D89DE7BC0E10@-----.gbl>=0A=0AI to=
ok my 40 year old Buffet R-13 in today to my local shop for some new =0Acor=
k and pads.=0A=0AI was told that replacement keys by Buffet are hard to get=
in the US.=0A=0ANo, I did not need any keys, but does anyone know anything=
about this?=0A=0AMike Marmer =0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0ADat=
e: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:37:14 -0500=0ATo: <klarinet@-----.org>=0AFrom: "Bi=
ll Foss" <billfoss47@-----.net>=0ASubject: Re: [kl] buffet parts=0AMess=
age-ID: <D1FADAECFB714941A70C36CF81816A42@acerad993ba82b>=0A=0AI don't know=
but last year I had to have a key replaced on my 48 year old =0A"A" R-13, =
purchased at the factory in 1964, and had no problem.=0A=0ABill Foss=0AU.S.=
Army Retired=0AUSC Aiken, Woodwind Professor=0ADirector of Bands, Aiken Pr=
ep=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: "Michael and Linda Marmer" <m=
lmarmer@-----.org>=0ACc: "Joseph Lechner" <Jose=
ph.Lechner@-----.edu>=0ASent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:32 PM=0ASubject: [k=
l] buffet parts=0A=0A>I took my 40 year old Buffet R-13 in today to my loca=
l shop for some new =0A>cork and pads.=0A>=0A> I was told that replacement =
keys by Buffet are hard to get in the US.=0A>=0A> No, I did not need any ke=
ys, but does anyone know anything about this?=0A>=0A> Mike Marmer=0A>=0A> -=
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ail klarinet-help@-----.=
org=0A> =0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0ADate: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:=
48:21 -0500=0ATo: <klarinet@-----.org>=0AFrom: "Michael and Linda Marmer=
" <mlmarmer@-----.com>=0ASubject: Re: [kl] buffet parts=0AMessage-ID: <BAY107=
-DAV12F90ACF7067E0AA520915C0E10@-----.gbl>=0A=0AThanks for the information as=
he said something about the constant changing =0Aof the company in the US =
being the supplier now for Buffet.=0A=0AWhen I pick up the clarinet tomorro=
w, I will ask him again to explain.=0A=0AMike=0A=0A----- Original Message -=
---- =0AFrom: "Bill Foss" <billfoss47@-----.net>=0ATo: <klarinet@woodwi=
nd.org>=0ASent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:37 PM=0ASubject: Re: [kl] buffet=
parts=0A=0A>I don't know but last year I had to have a key replaced on my =
48 year old =0A>"A" R-13, purchased at the factory in 1964, and had no prob=
lem.=0A>=0A> Bill Foss=0A> U.S. Army Retired=0A> USC Aiken, Woodwind Profes=
sor=0A> Director of Bands, Aiken Prep=0A>=0A> ----- Original Message ----- =
=0A> From: "Michael and Linda Marmer" <mlmarmer@-----.com>=0A> To: <klarinet@=
woodwind.org>=0A> Cc: "Joseph Lechner" <Joseph.Lechner@-----.edu>=0A> Sent: =
Monday, January 05, 2009 5:32 PM=0A> Subject: [kl] buffet parts=0A>=0A>=0A>=
>I took my 40 year old Buffet R-13 in today to my local shop for some new =
=0A>>cork and pads.=0A>>=0A>> I was told that replacement keys by Buffet ar=
e hard to get in the US.=0A>>=0A>> No, I did not need any keys, but does an=
yone know anything about this?=0A>>=0A>> Mike Marmer=0A>>=0A>> ------------=
email klarinet-unsubscribe@-----.org,=0A>> klarinet-digest-unsubscribe@=
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Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:21:42 -0500=0ATo: klarinet@-----.org=0AFrom: "David B=
. Niethamer" <dnietham@-----.edu>=0ASubject: Re: [kl] Re: Get of the Rap=
Soap Box=0AMessage-Id: <F1B9A0E8-2156-499C-81C8-D54E635E9441@-----.edu>=
=0A=0AOn Jan 5, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Tim Roberts wrote:=0A=0A> Statistically=
=0A> speaking, rap's appeal skews towards the younger age groups.=A0 That=
=0A> generational class distinction is part of the appeal: "it belongs=A0 =
=0A> to US,=0A> not to those old fogies."=A0 There's probably a good gradua=
te level=0A> seminar here on the psychology of preferences in music.=0A>=0A=
=0AYou know you're getting old when the music of your youth becomes the=A0 =
=0Asubject of somebody's doctoral dissertation!=0A=0AFor me, it's the Cambr=
idge Music Handbook about the Sgt. Pepper's album.=0A=0ADavid=0A=0ADavid B.=
Niethamer=0Adnietham@-----.=
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1 -0800 (GMT-08:00)=0ATo: klarinet@-----.org=0AFrom: kurtheisig@earthlin=
k.net=0ASubject: Re: [kl] Finger injury=0AMessage-ID: <2955610.123123507243=
3.JavaMail.root@-----.net>=0A=0AI have had a numb=
er of students, customers and friends that have had this happen, and they a=
ll seem to have recovered over time and wound up playing ok.=0A=0AKurt=0A=
=0A-----Original Message-----=0A>From: Audrey Travis <clr91nt@-----.ca>=0A>S=
ent: Jan 5, 2009 12:20 PM=0A>To: klarinet@-----.org=0A>Subject: [kl] Fin=
ger injury=0A>=0A>Last July I cut off a tiny part of the tip of my L middle=
finger in a =0A>gardening accident.=A0 Though it has healed well, I guess =
a lot of nerve =0A>endings are still traumatized and are near the surface, =
so it's =0A>difficult to play clarinet because it gets so sore when I need =
to press =0A>down on it.=0A>=0A>Has anyone had this injury and/or can anyon=
e suggest any cream that =0A>might help it heal faster?=A0 The alternative =
is to bandage that part of =0A>the finger when I want to play, but that pos=
es its own problems.=0A>=0A>Any help would be much appreciated.=0A>=0A>Than=
ks!=0A>=0A>Audrey=0A>=0A>=0A>----------------------------------------------=
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