Klarinet Archive - Posting 000084.txt from 2009/01

From: Martin Baxter <martinbaxter@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] It's all a Wind Up?
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:24:04 -0500

There are surely two distinct questions here: is Rap an art form and
is it Music. Sculpture is an art form but I have never considered it
to be music (yes I know it was described as "frozen music" but so
what). I would certainly agree rap can be fairly regarded as an art-
form, but whether that art-form is a musical one is more arguable. Is
poetry a musical art-form or just an art-form? Perhaps when it is
spoken aloud. Then is the score of Eine Kleine Nachtmusik in itself
music or is it only music when played? Suppose I read the score and
imagine the performance of it -"auralize" it as this is often
described. AAAARGH .... the men in white coats are at the door!
Martin
On 5 Jan 2009, at 19:15, Clif Johnson wrote:

> Since you have allowed me freedom of expression...I do not like rap.
> Porn is art...and I do not like it.
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Forest Aten
> Date: 1/5/2009 2:01:06 PM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] It's all a Wind Up?
>
> Alexander
>
> "this stuff".....what "stuff" are you talking about (that matters
> to you)?
> Does every musical artist have to consult you, so that their musical
> creations pass your narrow definition of "music"?
>
> Rap is an art form...a musical art form. At the core, rap has current
> cultural issues at heart. I don't believe that these issues
> disqualify it as
>
> an art form...or make it non-music. If that's the case for you...I
> believe
> you have a very narrow definition of what music is or could be. Rap
> is (in
> fact) a musical art form....with millions of participants.
>
> You have made it clear that you are not and have no desire to be
> one of
> those that participate. That's ok....but to deride the art form and
> fail to
> understand the form's root origin and importance...is not exactly
> what I
> would call valid argument (disagree?). Simply say, "I don't like
> it"....and
> let it go.
>
> I'm not a big fan of rap....although I've heard some very amazing
> things in
> the genre. I do think it's important to listen, understand and
> appreciate
> art that others produce and many others embrace. You don't have to
> like
> it...again...that's ok.
>
> Forest
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alexander Brash [mailto:brash@-----.edu]
>> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:31 AM
>> To: klarinet@-----.org
>> Subject: Re: [kl] It's all a Wind Up?
>>
>> If you're suggesting this whole thread has been a troll, I assure you
>> it's
>> not :) If people don't disagree passionately, what's the point? This
>> stuff
>> matters to me.
>>
>>
> et-owner@-----.org
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