Klarinet Archive - Posting 000221.txt from 2008/12

From: "Mike Vaccaro" <mike@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] Re: If Mozart Were Alive Today...
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:35:28 -0500

It seems to me that people listen to music that represents who they think
they are.

That might be something like you are saying Sarah.
Mike Vaccaro

From: "Sarah Bolton" <heart_soul_music@-----.com>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: [kl] Re: If Mozart Were Alive Today...

It could be that some people listen to certain kinds of music because they
want to be associated with a certain social group. I mean, just look at the
'emo's and their 'screamo' music. Maybe it's the same with rap?

Actually, I have found one rap song that I like **gasp!!** It's called
Handlebars, by the Flobots. I like it, first of all because it has a trumpet
solo in it, which I think is way kewl! And secondly because the lyrics are
about how "I can do ANYTHING" and they are very forceful due to the musical
context in which they are delivered.

*Sarah

clarinet players are strange, strange creatures.... lol!

> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:57:56 -0500
> From: cealleach@-----.net
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Re: If Mozart Were Alive Today...
>
> What is considered risque or off-color is very contextual and defined by
> social codes and morals. As Dan Leeson very rightly pointed out even music
> by Mozart deals with risque stubjects even by modern standards.
>
>
> Just a thought: The subject matter of music on its own does not define the
> good-ness or bad-ness of the music, but the musical treatment of a subject
> can. To say that rap music is bad or unmusical because it deals with sex,
> drugs and other topics of a risque or off-color leaning doesn't make sense
> in the same way the 'Figaro' or 'Don Giovanni' are bad for the same
> reasons. Music, including rap, if done right can be a wonderful medium for
> taking on difficult subjects like sex, drugs, etc. John Adam's "Dr.
> Atomic" is an excellent example of that. Whether or not one likes John
> Adams, or rap, or thinks John Adams, or rap, are music is a whole
> different kettle of fish.
>
>
> I'm not a rap fan and am hesitant to say that it is bad due solely to it's
> content.
> - Kelly W.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Sarah Bolton
>>Sent: Dec 31, 2008 11:22 AM
>>To: klarinet@-----.org
>>Subject: RE: [kl] Re: If Mozart Were Alive Today...
>>
>>
>>Hahaha! And just take a look at our modern musicals... there is always
>>off-color humor and a risque scene, or two.
>>
>>I agree that the content of most rap is not entirely wholesome. I don't
>>listen to it. I also agree that there is good and bad in everything....
>>perhaps even rap. But I won't be the one to find out what the good rap is!
>>
>>
>>*Sarah
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>> From: dnleeson@-----.net
>>> To: klarinet@-----.org
>>> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:35:43 -0800
>>> Subject: Re: [kl] Re: If Mozart Were Alive Today...
>>>
>>> No so, Alexander. The central theme of Cosi Fan Tutte is based on lying,
>>> cheating, and wife swapping. Marriage of Figaro is also not very
>>> innocent,
>>> having a heavy theme of "right of the first night" and sexual predation,
>>> which is also a major theme of Don Giovanni.
>>>
>>> Dan Leeson
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Alexander Brash"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 2:20 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [kl] Re: If Mozart Were Alive Today...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yeah, rappers talk about sex, drugs, cheating, lying, stealing,
>>>> killing,
>>>> and rape. I can't think of a single Mozart opera on these topics.
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