Klarinet Archive - Posting 000212.txt from 2008/12

From: Sarah Bolton <heart_soul_music@-----.com>
Subj: RE: [kl] Re: If Mozart Were Alive Today...
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:11:26 -0500


It could be that some people listen to certain kinds of music because they =
want to be associated with a certain social group. I mean=2C just look at t=
he 'emo's and their 'screamo' music. Maybe it's the same with rap?
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Actually=2C I have found one rap song that I like **gasp!!** It's called Ha=
ndlebars=2C by the Flobots. I like it=2C first of all because it has a trum=
pet solo in it=2C which I think is way kewl! And secondly because the lyric=
s are about how "I can do ANYTHING" and they are very forceful due to the m=
usical context in which they are delivered.

*Sarah
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clarinet players are strange=2C strange creatures.... lol!

> Date: Wed=2C 31 Dec 2008 11:57:56 -0500
> From: cealleach@-----.net
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Re: If Mozart Were Alive Today...
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> What is considered risque or off-color is very contextual and defined by =
social codes and morals. As Dan Leeson very rightly pointed out even music =
by Mozart deals with risque stubjects even by modern standards.=20
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> Just a thought: The subject matter of music on its own does not define th=
e good-ness or bad-ness of the music=2C but the musical treatment of a subj=
ect can. To say that rap music is bad or unmusical because it deals with se=
x=2C drugs and other topics of a risque or off-color leaning doesn't make s=
ense in the same way the 'Figaro' or 'Don Giovanni' are bad for the same re=
asons. Music=2C including rap=2C if done right can be a wonderful medium fo=
r taking on difficult subjects like sex=2C drugs=2C etc. John Adam's "Dr. A=
tomic" is an excellent example of that. Whether or not one likes John Adams=
=2C or rap=2C or thinks John Adams=2C or rap=2C are music is a whole differ=
ent kettle of fish.
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> I'm not a rap fan and am hesitant to say that it is bad due solely to it'=
s content.
> - Kelly W.
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> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Sarah Bolton=20
>>Sent: Dec 31=2C 2008 11:22 AM
>>To: klarinet@-----.org
>>Subject: RE: [kl] Re: If Mozart Were Alive Today...
>>
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>>Hahaha! And just take a look at our modern musicals... there is always of=
f-color humor and a risque scene=2C or two.
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>>I agree that the content of most rap is not entirely wholesome. I don't l=
isten to it. I also agree that there is good and bad in everything.... perh=
aps even rap. But I won't be the one to find out what the good rap is!
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>>*Sarah
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>>> From: dnleeson@-----.net
>>> To: klarinet@-----.org
>>> Date: Wed=2C 31 Dec 2008 07:35:43 -0800
>>> Subject: Re: [kl] Re: If Mozart Were Alive Today...
>>>
>>> No so=2C Alexander. The central theme of Cosi Fan Tutte is based on lyi=
ng=2C
>>> cheating=2C and wife swapping. Marriage of Figaro is also not very inno=
cent=2C
>>> having a heavy theme of "right of the first night" and sexual predation=
=2C
>>> which is also a major theme of Don Giovanni.
>>>
>>> Dan Leeson
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Alexander Brash"=20
>>> To:=20
>>> Sent: Wednesday=2C December 31=2C 2008 2:20 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [kl] Re: If Mozart Were Alive Today...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yeah=2C rappers talk about sex=2C drugs=2C cheating=2C lying=2C steali=
ng=2C killing=2C
>>>> and rape. I can't think of a single Mozart opera on these topics.
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