Klarinet Archive - Posting 000142.txt from 2008/12

From: Alexander Brash <brash@-----.edu>
Subj: Re: [kl] Beethoven Nine and Meaning
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 13:14:26 -0500

Oh God, thank you! That's it exactly.

On Dec 29, 2008, at 1:15 PM, David B. Niethamer wrote:

> I'm working from memory here with no time to check my aging brain
> cell death, but I believe the essay you refer to was written by
> Sartre, and it referred to Beethoven 7.
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> DN
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> On Dec 29, 2008, at 2:10 AM, Alexander Brash wrote:
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>> I'm looking for an article and my googling skills have failed. I
>> remember once reading what I thought was rather famous argument
>> about where meaning lies in a musical work. Someone (I think it was
>> Adorno?) had a thought experiment where he argued that Beethoven 9
>> didn't actually exist, since you couldn't point to where it existed
>> (not in the score, a single performance, etc), along with some
>> other ramifications. Does anyone know what I'm referring to? It's
>> driving me bonkers. I might have read it in the Stravinsky Poetics
>> of Music, but he was definitely quoting someone else...
>>
>>
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