Klarinet Archive - Posting 000245.txt from 2008/11

From: kurtheisig@-----.net
Subj: Re: [kl] Clarinet - wood, metal, or carrot?
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 02:38:19 -0500

The carrot will shift around as it dries. Even those woody monsters we made into baby food at Beech-Nut.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Leeson <dnleeson@-----.net>
>Sent: Nov 17, 2008 10:19 AM
>To: klarinet@-----.org
>Subject: Re: [kl] Clarinet - wood, metal, or carrot?
>
>I think that the continued argument that I and others have made is that the
>sound character of a clarinet is independent of the material used to make
>it.
>
>Nothing was stated about intonation. So if the experiment was done on a
>carrot, or a piece of PVC pipe, or a Chinese radish, what is expected is
>something that sounds like a clarinet, NOT that one will achieve something
>that sounds like a clarinet and also be in tune.
>
>To achieve that end was never asserted to be the case, though I can't think
>of any reason why that second objective might not be able to be achieved,
>too.
>
>Dan Leeson
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tim Roberts" <timr@-----.com>
>To: <klarinet@-----.org>
>Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 10:04 AM
>Subject: Re: [kl] Clarinet - wood, metal, or carrot?
>
>
>> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:25:22 -0700, "Marcia Bundi"
>> <msbundi357@-----.net> wrote:
>>> Cute! But, take a look at that mouthpiece -- seems to me that this might
>>> be
>>> more of a carrophone than a carrinet.
>>>
>>
>> No. The mouthpiece is not relevant to the classification. If you put a
>> sax mouthpiece on your clarinet and played it, it would still sound like
>> a clarinet. The carrot has a cylindrical bore, and the reed makes it a
>> "closed pipe", acoustically speaking. That makes it a clarinet. To be
>> a saxophone, it would have to have a conical bore.
>>
>> I have to say that I, too, am somewhat skeptical of the clip. I made a
>> clarinet out of PVC pipe a couple of years ago from instructions I found
>> on the web (including mouthpiece!). It played adequately, but even with
>> very careful placement of the holes and the hole sizes, its tuning was
>> highly questionable. This carrot was nicely in tune (and there's a
>> phrase I never thought I would utter), despite his apparently cavalier
>> free-hand drilling.
>>
>> Maybe Mr Pollak had the hole positions pre-marked on his carrot blank.
>> I certainly WANT to believe it...
>>
>> --
>> Tim Roberts, timr@-----.com
>> Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
>>
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