Klarinet Archive - Posting 000200.txt from 2008/11

From: kurtheisig@-----.net
Subj: Re: [kl] Alternatives to bassoon for a quintet?
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:41:33 -0500

That can work well. The trick is to have a mouthpiece that works well in all registers, with good tone and response. Ralph Morgan and I designed one some years ago that would allow you to play various concerti quite well.

The contras can be very viable instruments if set up well with good mouthpieces and reeds.

The bari sax, alto clarinet, and contras are much under utilized fabulous instruments. Wonderful instruments for solo work too.

I am always looking for students on them, as they are such good instruments and rewarding to teach.

I even have one student that plays great jazz on all of them.

I think that during the early '70's and the great upheaval in higher education, we lost a lot in this country. Many of us on here are in positions to bring things back, and we should.

Kurt

Have you ever heard a band with 2 eefers, Solo Bb, 3 firsts, 3 seconds, 4-5 thirds (so 4th parts could be covered), 4 altos, 4 basses, and one of each contra? I have a couple of times---wow!

-----Original Message-----
>From: Martin Baxter <martinbaxter@-----.net>
>Sent: Nov 14, 2008 6:35 AM
>To: klarinet@-----.org
>Cc: Martin Baxter <martinbaxter@-----.net>
>Subject: Re: [kl] Alternatives to bassoon for a quintet?
>
>Has anyone tried an E flat contra-alto clarinet? I havee used an alto
>clarinet,dropping the part by an octave.
>Martin
>On 13 Nov 2008, at 22:40, Roger Hewitt wrote:
>
>> < snip > If the bassoon part is in tenor clef, you are on your own.
>>
>> Indeed, while on the Bass Clarinet that's real easy!
>>
>> Roger H
>>
>>
>> --- On Thu, 13/11/08, Dan Leeson <dnleeson@-----.net> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Dan Leeson <dnleeson@-----.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [kl] Alternatives to bassoon for a quintet?
>>> To: klarinet@-----.org
>>> Date: Thursday, 13 November, 2008, 10:24 PM
>>> And with a baritone sax in E-flat, the transposition is very
>>> simple. Just
>>> read the notes as if they were in the treble clef. If the
>>> bassoon part is
>>> in tenor clef, you are on your own.
>>>
>>> Dan Leeson
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Curtis Bennett"
>>> <curtis.bennett@-----.com>
>>> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [kl] Alternatives to bassoon for a quintet?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Surely good baritone saxophonists are even more rare
>>> than good bassoon
>>>> players!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:46 PM,
>>> <kurtheisig@-----.net> wrote:
>>>>> Curtis,
>>>>>
>>>>> A good Classical Baritone Saxophonist can fill in
>>> for bassoon.
>>>>>
>>>>> We just add 3 sharps and read bass clef like it
>>> was treble.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been called on to play bassoon parts in
>>> chamber orchestra even,
>>>>> and had the conductor much prefer the sound over
>>> bassoon!
>>>>>
>>>>> As conductor of the Heisig-Hastings Band, which
>>> Danny used to be the Bass
>>>>> Clarinet player for, I freely substitute baritone
>>> sax for bassoon,
>>>>> PROVIDED, we have a good classical bari player
>>> available. No rubber boot
>>>>> players allowed!.
>>>>>
>>>>> I must confess that a lot of the secret is a good
>>> mouthpiece, and I make
>>>>> those. We also use Vandoren #5 standard reeds,
>>> that have been balanced.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kurt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Curtis Bennett
>>> <curtis.bennett@-----.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Nov 13, 2008 9:23 AM
>>>>>> To: klarinet@-----.org
>>>>>> Subject: [kl] Alternatives to bassoon for a
>>> quintet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, earlier this year, I formed a woodwind
>>> quintet, and invited an
>>>>>> oboe player from a local community band to join
>>> me. I quickly, and
>>>>>> easily found a good horn and flutist to round
>>> out the set, and even
>>>>>> found a good college-aged bassoon player who
>>> played with us for a
>>>>>> short time, but had to leave because he
>>> graduated, and his instrument
>>>>>> belonged to the school. I guess he wasn't
>>> terribly interested in
>>>>>> playing with us anyway. So, only joined us a
>>> few times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So we've been without a bassoon player ever
>>> since then. The horn
>>>>>> player has a friend who plays cello, and I told
>>> her to ask her to join
>>>>>> us. In my (somewhat naive) mind, a cello
>>> player should be able to
>>>>>> read bassoon music without any problems, since
>>> both are in the same
>>>>>> key, and both read bass clef.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can't a cello player read bassoon music
>>> without any difficulty? Am I
>>>>>> wrong in thinking this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Curtis Bennett
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