Klarinet Archive - Posting 000039.txt from 2008/11

From: Alexander Brash <brash@-----.edu>
Subj: Re: [kl] After Drucker
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:44:33 -0500

I'm sorry, the "big five" is a term which most people understand to
mean the symphony orchestras/philharmonics of New York, Boston,
Cleveland, Philadelphia, and Chicago. I assumed the term was in
common usage.

On Nov 8, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Doug Potter wrote:

> I don't see how it's any more valid to paint Americans with the
> same brush
> than it is "old" people.
>
> So no, Alexander Brash, I don't know "How many times have I been to
> the New
> York Phil or Boston Symphony and heard players who have held those
> chairs
> for years and years sound embarrassingly unprepared or terrible?" But
> proposing to solve this perceived problem with a blanket rule is
> silly,
> unfair, and so forth (Dan has the best list here). And of course,
> it's
> silly to think that you could somehow make the top five orchestras
> adopt the
> same rule (is there a top-five orchestra association? - and what
> is the top
> five list anyway?).
>
> Rules like this are ways of avoiding dealing with a specific
> situation head
> on. How much easier to say, "Sorry, the rules say you must retire"
> than "We
> noticed your playing not up to snuff lately so we're going to move
> you down
> to second chair." This is cowardly and chicken*** (it doesn't even
> rate
> bull***).
>
> And, Tony, it seems a bit presumptive to think that we're all going to
> change our spots because we've elected a different president. The
> past
> thirty years has seen the country deeply divided - you've seen a
> slight
> shift that allowed us to elect someone "from the other side." I
> suspect
> most of the Americans you deal with are from that same other side.
>
> Doug
> http://ConicWave.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tony.pay@-----.com] On Behalf Of
> Tony Pay
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 2:23 PM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: Re: [kl] After Drucker
>
> And, what does 'play circles round' mean, anyway?
>
> It's all part of this CRAP, PRESENTATION MODEL of what being a
> musician is. VERY American in style.
>
> Perhaps you're all going to change, now. I certainly hope so.
>
> Tony
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