Klarinet Archive - Posting 000082.txt from 2008/06

From: "Daniel Leeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] Now here's a question that you are not likely to expect
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:23:52 -0400

Thanks Jim. What it finally settled down to is this: "The muse forbids the
praise-deserving hero to die.” Horace Carmina IV, 8, 28. I've take a few
liberties with the many suggestions I have and that's what I come up with.

A tip of my hat to your daughter.

Dan Leeson

-----Original Message-----
From: James Grondin [mailto:JGrondin@-----.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:59 PM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: RE: [kl] Now here's a question that you are not likely to
expect

From my daughter who studied Latin for four years:

"My translation: Dignum laude irum Musa uetat mori= the Muse of the worthy
Iris (messenger of the gods, goddess of the rainbow) forbids the praise to
die.
ie. This piece of music composed by this composer is so good and so worthy
of praise that there is no way it is ever going to not be praised. Because
some god said so ( or so he thinks).

Really, the translation of this phrase is up for grabs because of the gender
usage and placement. Dignum, irum, and laude could either be nouns/
adjectives and could either be genetive, subjects, or direct objects. To
complicate matters, Latin word order is always in different order depending
on the context."

I hope this helps.

James Grondin

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Leeson [mailto:dnleeson@-----.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:13 PM
To: klarinet@-----. org
Subject: [kl] Now here's a question that you are not likely to expect

Beleive it or not, it is a musicological question. The following inscription
(in Latin) appears on an engraving of Mozart. It says, "Dignum laude irum
Musa uetat mori." The line is taken from the Greek poet Horace, Carmina IV,
8, 28.

Can someone with a better grasp of the classics take a swipe at translating
this, please??

Dan Leeson
dnleeson@-----.net
SKYPE: dnleeson

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