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Klarinet Archive - Posting 000073.txt from 2008/02
From: "Daniel Leeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] Musical Orgasms
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:30:44 -0500
I think that you have a damaged view of all of the previous discussions
about musical orgasms. We referred to moments in a musical composition
during which an orgasm was depicted in musical form; that is, some part of
the music was a depiction of a man or woman having an orgasm either during
the sex act or as a consequnce of some other event, sometimes abberant, such
as Salome with the head of John the baptist.
What you seem to be talking about is the emotion that arises while
performing a work that contains music that is exceptionally romantic or
sensual. The Brahms quintet, that you mentioned, is indeed such a work,
having several moments where it is difficult to restrain control over
yourself. But it does not have an orgasm in the music. I even had such an
emotion when playing a Sousa march with a superior band. I almost lost it,
but there was nothing orgasmic about it. And much of Mozart makes me
a-flutter, but the music is not trying to depict an orgasm, as does, say,
The Balero.
Just because your heart beats faster and you get all woozy in the head
doesn't mean that it is an orgasm.
Dan Leeson
dnleeson@-----.net
SKYPE: dnleeson
-----Original Message-----
From: danyel [mailto:rab@-----.de]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:15 PM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: Re: [kl] Musical Orgasms
Interesting indeed as we would probably all agree that all kinds of orgasms
are a nice thing but not always easy to get. Hence:
Can any one of you tell a fake musical orgasm from a real one? Is there such
a thing as a real musical orgasm anyway or are all musical orgasms by
definition faked? Are they satisfying or embarrassing, more like watching
other people doing it or doing it oneself? Are orchestral orgasms orgies?
Are there any orgasms in chamber music? I must admit, that personally I get
usually kind of close to one playing the Brahms Quintet. If I play the
clarinet part by myself and still enjoying it, would that qualify as musical
masturbation?
Curiously
danyel
www.echoton.de/clar.html
----- Original Message -----
From: <feanor33@-----.net>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 7:51 PM
Subject: [kl] Musical Orgasms
> Dear List,
>
> Interesting discussion. Perhaps the most graphic one I ever encountered
> was the very specific orgasm in the third movement of "Symphony
> Fantastique" by Hector Berlioz. I never realized it was there until I did
> the piece with a French conductor (most others make it too German
> sounding). I turned red in the middle of rehearsal!
>
> Sean
>
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