Klarinet Archive - Posting 000088.txt from 2007/11

From: "Karl Krelove" <karlkrelove@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] Re: klarinet Digest 16 Nov 2007 22:45:03 -0000 Issue 7556
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:40:49 -0500

If you want someone else's - a famous name's - breathing advice, I think
Bonade marks breaths into the solo as it's printed in his excerpt book. Or
you can put any recording you like into your CD player and listen to that
player's breaths and phrasing. The solo isn't covered anywhere so it's easy
enough to hear what the player is doing.

But are we all talking about the same solo? The passage that goes up to D
with a diminuendo (if it's the passage I think Fred meant) is in the 2nd
Symphony, not the concerto. I've never found the solo in the concerto to be
enough of a problem to need circular breathing, although it might be useful
in the symphony solo as another alternative to having to choose between
grabbing too many breaths and passing out. :-)

Karl

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Brash [mailto:brash@-----.edu]
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 6:36 PM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: Re: [kl] Re: klarinet Digest 16 Nov 2007 22:45:03 -0000 Issue 7556

Hi there,
Without meaning to start a flame debate - the best way to do this
solo is to circular breath - and if you can't, it's an excellent
opportunity to start learning! :) It's not a matter of "look what I
can do," I've always found that under pressure in that passage, you
feel much more relaxed if you're not worrying about running out of
air before your next breath point.

Alex

On Nov 17, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Simeon Loring wrote:

> What about fingering fourth space Eb, and picking up the middle
> fingers of each hand while using only the register key (not
> covering the thumb hole)?
> Simeon
> On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:00 PM, Fred Jacobowitz wrote:
>
>> Get an oxygen machine! ;-) Or train your second clarinetist to
>> take a note here or there. ;-) ;-) Actually, I do have one serious
>> hint: Where it diminuendos to the hi D, see if you can't find a
>> nice fake fingering for it. I've wanted to but on my horn, the
>> timpral (and tuning) differences were too big. Maybe your setup
>> will be different.
>>
>> Fred Jacobowitz
>>
>> Kol Haruach Klezmer Band
>> Ebony and Ivory Duo
>> On Nov 16, 2007, at 8:44 PM, Randolf Keller wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> we're currently rehearsing Rachmaninov's Piano Concerto #2,
>>> are there any good suggestions for breathing, phrasing and
>>> articulation of the clarinet solo in the 2nd movement ?
>>>
>>> During the first rehearsals our conductor took this part rather
>>> "speedy" so there was no big problem with breathing,
>>> but
>>> with the soloist, it's very slow and I can't make the passages
>>> through,
>>> considering the volume which I need in the (full) concert hall.
>>>
>>> Looking forward to your comments !
>>> /Randolf
>>>
>>>
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