| Klarinet Archive - Posting 000120.txt from 2007/05 From: "dnleeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>Subj: RE: [kl] A Deeper View of Wagner's Background
 Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 13:48:48 -0400
 
 Good summary Audry, but there is no complete ban on Wagner's
 music in Israel.  It is only the IPO that plays no Wagner and has
 not since for some time. He is on the radio there and there is
 talk of performing one of his operas, but the reason behind that
 ban was not originally due to Wagner's music.  The history is
 this:
 
 The ban on performance of Wagner's music by the Palestine
 Orchestra (later the Palestine Philharmonic and, still later, the
 Israel Philharmonic Orchestra), began on Nov. 12, 1938.  The
 closing work of the program was to have been the prelude to
 Meistersinger. Following the intermission of that concert, the
 chairman of the orchestral association announced that "because of
 the antisemitic excesses and disturbances in Germany," the Wagner
 work had been removed from the program by public demand, and
 Weber's overture to the opera Oberon had been substituted.
 
 The most significant factor in this action was due, NOT TO
 WAGNER, but to Kristallnacht which had taken place three days
 earlier, Nov. 9, 1938.  It would appear that the use of the name
 "Nuremberg" and its connection with both Nazi party conventions
 and anti-Jewish laws was the aggravating factor; i.e., the
 restrictive ordinances were made by the Nazis in that city in
 explicit deference to Wagner's opera.  As such, this was not a
 wholesale condemnation of Wagner by the management or the
 personnel of the Palestine Orchestra, and for the fourth concert
 of the season, the orchestra played the "Bacchanal" from Wagner's
 Tannhauser, though not in Palestine but on tour in Egypt.
 However, beginning Nov. 12, 1939 and continuing until this day --
 with one significant exception --  the orchestra, has performed
 no music of Wagner.
 
 Dan Leeson
 DNLeeson@-----.net
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: Audrey Travis [mailto:clr91nt@-----.ca]
 Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:10 AM
 To: klarinet@-----.org
 Subject: [kl] A Deeper View of Wagner's Background
 
 Very good article, Joe.  However, the author washes over the idea
 that
 Wagner's ideas/ideology regarding Jews were part and parcel of a
 well
 established political and cultural background of his time.  A
 book I
 mentioned about a week ago, The War Against The Jews 1939 - 1945
 by
 Lucy Davidovitch details the history of political parties in
 Germany
 and Austria going back at least 200 years.  She shows that there
 were
 well established, mainstream parties with written language in
 their
 party platforms that either:
 
 (a) supported the idea that Jews were the cause of the
 evils/problems
 in their society and should be barred from certain livelihoods
 and
 parts of society (very well known in other countries as well)
 
 (b) started with idea (a) and strongly advocated that Jews should
 be
 expelled from their country (Judenrein - well known and acted
 upon
 inother countries))
 
 or (c) started with idea (a) and strongly advocated that Jews
 were
 subhuman and should be physically exterminated (murdered)
 
 All these ideas were well accepted in those countries well before
 Wagner was even born.  He grew up with these ideas as part of his
 social education.  Therefore, Wagner was NOT the source of Nazi
 ideology, nor was Hitler himself.  Because so many people do not
 know
 history, Hitler is often thought of as an aberration of history
 with
 wild and exceedingly deadly ideas/ideology that came out of
 nowhere but
 his own tortured and insane mind.  Not so.  Both Wagner and
 Hitler were
 products of the political and cultural background of their
 society.
 
 It is the fact that Hitler and the Nazis used the music of such a
 public figure as Wagner that has given rise to the ban of his
 music
 being played in Israel.
 
 Audrey
 
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