Klarinet Archive - Posting 000083.txt from 2007/04

From: Fred Jacobowitz <fbjacobo@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Standing with bass clarinet
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 14:36:33 -0400

Well, in that case, I guess you'll have to have someone help you rig up
a rigid harness which will let you hold the bass like a tenor sax. All
the T. Sax harnesses I know of assume that there is a heavy duty thumb
rest so you can control the sax with that. Maybe reshaping the bass's
thumb rest would be a soution. Some old soprano saxes have a complete
ring through which the RH thumb goes. Of course, that would restrict
use of the thumb keys so you might have to re-shape them too. Think
that'd work? Good luck.

Fred J.

Kol Haruach Klezmer Band
Ebony and Ivory Duo
On Apr 9, 2007, at 2:25 PM, clarni bass wrote:

> Thanks, but it's not only that. The peg is just too
> restrictive in general. Also when I play with dancers
> I sometimes move a lot - move around and many
> different ways (almost like dancing really). Also, I
> play in too many varied scenarios for cuing (this is
> correct spelling?) to always be subtle. When I need to
> signal the drummer who is in full energy and behind
> me, an eyebrow movement won't do it :-)
>
> Nitai
>
>
>
>
> --- Fred Jacobowitz <fbjacobo@-----.net> wrote:
>
>> Nitai,
>> I had an issue with cuing too. We all just had to
>> learn to deal with
>> it. I learned to do much more subtle things
>> including taking obvious
>> breaths and using my elbows and eyebrows. The group
>> had to know what to
>> look for. It can be easily dealt with. Besides, any
>> decent musician
>> shouldn't need a huge cue. It should be pretty
>> obvious unless it is a
>> huge ensemble and there are distance and sight line
>> issues.
>>
>> Fred J.
>>
>> Kol Haruach Klezmer Band
>> Ebony and Ivory Duo
>> On Apr 9, 2007, at 1:14 PM, clarni bass wrote:
>>
>>> Fred/David - My long peg was made to fit my height
>> so
>>> that's not a problem. It was also made in a way
>> with
>>> the correct diameter in the beginning to fit the
>>> mount, then it is wider (like a curved step) so it
>> is
>>> not wobbly.
>>> The problem is completely different. The peg is
>> just
>>> too restrictive and I can't move much, especailly
>>> up/down. Queing others is difficult and when I
>> need to
>>> move even more (sometimes when playing with
>> dancers)
>>> it's just impossible.
>>>
>>> The setup Henri Bok uses, with some harness that
>>> attached also to pants and the stick in belly
>> looks
>>> uncomfortable, especially when you move a lot.
>> Also
>>> after playing for years (always actually) with the
>>> clarinet in the middle, I experimented for some
>> days
>>> and probably on the side is more comfortable for
>> me,
>>> and the stick wouldn't work too good with this I
>>> think.
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a harness that will put the
>> instrument
>>> in a position closer to that of a regular strap
>> (not
>>> so close to the body), if something like this
>> exists?
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>>
>>> Nitai
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- David McClune <dmcclune@-----.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Long Bass pegs...
>>>>
>>>> Go to Lowes/Home Depot and look for some 2-3 foot
>>>> long steel rods at the same diameter as your
>> regular
>>>> peg. Cut one to the correct length you would
>> need
>>>> then cut a second one about 6 inches shorter.
>> Have
>>>> someone weld them together. You may need to add
>> a
>>>> third rod. The combination will not wobble any
>>>> more!
>>>>
>>>> An amateur clarinet friend of mine is a
>> mechanical
>>>> engineer and this was her solution to the my
>> wobbly
>>>> peg problem! I also add the regular neck strap
>> to
>>>> add stability to the bass clarinet during page
>>>> turns, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Dr. David McClune
>>>> University Professor of Music
>>>> Director of Bands/Woodwinds
>>>> Union University-1862
>>>> 1050 Union University Drive
>>>> Jackson, TN 38305
>>>>
>>>> Office-731-661-5294
>>>> dmcclune@-----.edu
>>>> www.mcclunemouthpiece.com
>>>>
>>>>>>> Fred Jacobowitz <fbjacobo@-----.net>
>>>> 4/9/2007 10:30 am >>>
>>>> How long is your peg? I asked a buddy to
>> construct a
>>>> 2-foot-long peg
>>>> and as soon as I learned not to let the
>> instrument
>>>> flop around, it
>>>> worked well for me.
>>>>
>>>> Fred Jacobowitz
>>>>
>>>> Kol Haruach Klezmer Band
>>>> Ebony and Ivory Duo
>>>> On Apr 9, 2007, at 9:14 AM, clarni bass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello
>>>>>
>>>>> For bass clarinet - I would like to ask if
>> anyone
>>>>> knows about a harness-type strap (the type that
>>>> goes
>>>>> more on your shoulders than neck) that will put
>>>> the
>>>>> instrument in the same position (or at least
>>>> close) as
>>>>> a regular neck strap.
>>>>>
>>>>> I like the position of the bass clarinet that a
>>>>> regular neck strap gives me, but can't really
>> use
>>>> it.
>>>>> Any harness I've used had the instrument too
>> close
>>>> to
>>>>> the body and put the mouthpiece in an
>>>> uncomfortable
>>>>> position. I tried a long peg and that doesn't
>> work
>>>> for
>>>>> me too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone found a solution to this problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Nitai
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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