Klarinet Archive - Posting 000205.txt from 2007/03

From: "dnleeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] Berio multiphonic fingerings
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:03:04 -0400

Tony comments in a posting on this list (and with the link
specified in the note below), are the kind of comments in which
this group is at its absolute best. The interplay between the
player and the composer -- in this case Berio -- is wonderfully
described. I read it two or three time, it was so rich in
content.

Thank you Tony. It was a joy to see that kind of contribution.

Dan Leeson
DNLeeson@-----.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Pay [mailto:tony.p@-----.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:50 PM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: Re: [kl] Berio multiphonic fingerings

On 14 Mar, bflat <bflat@-----.it> wrote:

> Berio was not so proud of that piece (original version for clar
and
> tape, tape destroyed) and that piece is not really a
masterpiece.
> Anyway....

I'm interested to hear this. Any evidence?

> 1- you can use a full boehm

Yes, I did that the first couple of times I played it;

> 2- i've seen an american clar player whose name i do not
remember now
> adding and putting away a tube after the bell to increase the
clarinet
> length (not really easy) but it worked.

Yes, I've done that too, in Berio's presence -- see later.

> 3- alternative positions? same but using E position instead of
Eb. Sorry
> to say but i knew Berio and he really didn't care so much of
that piece and
> of this problem. he only knew that in 1979 most clarinet
players used in
> Italy full boehm and used the Eb key. that's it.

But, not really true. Berio was of a generation that used the
full Boehm,
but that hasn't been true of the younger players, even in 1979.

I once told Berio that we had a great problem with classical
texts in Italy,
because many of them were edited by Giampieri, who mangled them
and then
insisted that he, Giampieri, was acknowledged at any performance
(for
example, of the Mozart Concerto) that used the Ricordi edition.

Berio said, "But....he was my professor!!!"

Anyway, my story about the Sequenza is at:

http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/Klarinet/2000/01/000392.txt

The offer of what we produced is still open. (Perhaps I should
make it
available on the website -- Mark?)

Tony
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