Klarinet Archive - Posting 000108.txt from 2006/12

From: "Keith Bowen" <bowenk@-----.com>
Subj: RE: [kl] Beethoven 7 for harmoniemuik ensemble
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:45:39 -0500

Hmmm ... thanks for the advice.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: klarinet-return-89536-bowenk=compuserve.com@-----.org
> [mailto:klarinet-return-89536-bowenk=compuserve.com@-----.org] On
> Behalf Of dnleeson
> Sent: 21 December 2006 00:46
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Beethoven 7 for harmoniemuik ensemble
>
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> Operatic harmoniemusik is a much difficult act to bring off. The
> vast preponderance of arrangement are for a solo clarinet or a
> solo oboe accompanied by some reserved oom-pa music. Even the
> Mozart operas that exist in that fashion are not very good
> arrangements. Outside of the Fidelio, there isn't very much
> operatic stuff worth working on. It has a tendency to bore the
> performers.
>
> Dan Leeson
> DNLeeson@-----.net
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Bowen [mailto:bowenk@-----.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:36 PM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Beethoven 7 for harmoniemuik ensemble
>
>
> Dan,
>
> I'm afraid you may miss us - Feb 17 - 19 (Presidents' Day
> weekend). And it
> was you who recommended and put me in touch with Chris Weait,
> whom I am
> looking forward to meeting and studying with. I thought I'd
> thanked you for
> this intro, but if I forgot, I do so now!
>
> The theme next year will likely be "operatic Harmoniemusik" and
> we'll do
> Fidelio then! And I am getting contra or string bass both years.
>
> Keith
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: klarinet-return-89532-bowenk=compuserve.com@-----.org
> >
> [mailto:klarinet-return-89532-bowenk=compuserve.com@-----.org]
> On
> > Behalf Of dnleeson
> > Sent: 21 December 2006 00:14
> > To: klarinet@-----.org
> > Subject: RE: [kl] Beethoven 7 for harmoniemuik ensemble
> >
> >
> > That sounds wonderful. You had not told me that Chris Weait is
> > going to be there. Lovely man and a fabulous bassoonist.
> >
> > I am sorry that you are not doing the Fidelio arrangement.
> That
> > one, in my opinion, is the finest of all the Harmoniemusik.
> The
> > Pathetique piano sonata is nice as is the Haydn Oxford
> Symphony,
> > but the Fidelio is astounding. However you have to have the
> > contrabassoon or string bass to play it. Otherwise it has no
> > bottom and the glorious canonical quartet called "Mir Ist So
> > Wunderbard" is an empty shell.
> >
> > What are your dates for doing the program. As I told you, I
> will
> > be in Santa Fe in late January but only for 5 days.
> >
> > Dan Leeson
> > DNLeeson@-----.net
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Keith Bowen [mailto:bowenk@-----.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:07 PM
> > To: klarinet@-----.org
> > Subject: RE: [kl] Beethoven 7 for harmoniemuik ensemble
> >
> >
> > Yes I did know it went down to one known set. That is now in
> the
> > Beethoven
> > Archive in Bonn. It is quite possibly by Sedlak, but the
> > identification is
> > not proven as far as I know. I didn't know you were
> instrumental
> > in reviving
> > it, Dan. Parts are now available from Compusic, Schottstaedt as
> > Laurence
> > says, and Ut Orpheus in a new arrangement by Destri. After
> Tony's
> > comments I
> > am going with the Compusic (and his transcription for C
> > clarinet).
> >
> > Tony Pay and OAE played the Scherzo at the concert I heard, and
> I
> > enjoyed
> > that. It is a tone down from the orchestral original, and the
> > development of
> > the Finale is omitted.
> >
> > The theme of this winter's Kammermusik, with Chris Weait
> > directing, is
> > "Symphonic Harmoniemusik", so it has to be tried! We are also
> > playing the
> > Mozart Linz, Prague and Paris symphonies (the Prague is in a
> > modern
> > arrangement by Geoffrey Emerson, which is very good, the other
> > two
> > contemporary) and Haydn #85 and #92. That should keep us busy
> for
> > a weekend.
> >
> > Keith Bowen
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> klarinet-return-89520-bowenk=compuserve.com@-----.org
> > >
> >
> [mailto:klarinet-return-89520-bowenk=compuserve.com@-----.org]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of dnleeson
> > > Sent: 20 December 2006 21:43
> > > To: klarinet@-----.org
> > > Subject: RE: [kl] Beethoven 7 for harmoniemuik ensemble
> > >
> > >
> > > Is everyone aware that the Beethoven 7 arrangement at one
> time
> > > existed in only one copy of the parts? A Dutch lover of
> > > harmoniemusik searched that set of parts down somewhere in
> > > Germany, and from that set made a copy for me. I played it
> in
> > > the early 1970s and it was a screamer. I was not impressed
> > with
> > > the arrangement.
> > >
> > > I think that the Dutch player finally got Musica Rara to
> issue
> > a
> > > set of parts.
> > >
> > > Dan Leeson
> > > DNLeeson@-----.net
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> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Laurence Beckhardt [mailto:lbeckhardt@-----.net]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:39 PM
> > > To: klarinet@-----.org
> > > Subject: RE: [kl] Beethoven 7 for harmoniemuik ensemble
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, it's the Sedlak arrangement, spiffed up a bit by
> > > Schottstadt, who's no slouch in this department.
> > >
> > > Schottstadt also did a great arrangement of the
> > > Freischutz Overture for wind sextet (clarinets,
> > > bassoons, horns).
> > >
> > > Check out the website:
> > > http://www.schottstaedt-music.de/
> > >
> > > --- Keith Bowen <bowenk@-----.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sorry, I guess Beethoven 7 was ambiguous! Thanks for
> > > > the info, Laurence.
> > > > This appears to be the original 1816 arrangement
> > > > since it mentions
> > > > "?Sedlak".
> > > >
> > > > Cheers, Keith
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From:
> > > >
> > > klarinet-return-89504-bowenk=compuserve.com@-----.org
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> [mailto:klarinet-return-89504-bowenk=compuserve.com@-----.org]
> > > > On
> > > > > Behalf Of Laurence Beckhardt
> > > > > Sent: 20 December 2006 11:39
> > > > > To: klarinet@-----.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [kl] Beethoven 7 for harmoniemuik
> > > > ensemble
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry, my mistake - I read Beethoven 7 as
> > > > Beethoven
> > > > > Septet! anyway, it's a good edition of the Septet
> > > > > arrangement by Druschetsky.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for Beethoven's 7th Symphony arranged by
> > > > Sedlak, I
> > > > > highly recommend the edition edited and published
> > > > by
> > > > > Rainer Schottstadt (Verlag Gebr. Schottstadt - GS
> > > > 20
> > > > > 007). Very well produced!
> > > > >
> > > > > What a fun arrangement - especially the second
> > > > > movement/Allegretto.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Tony Pay <tony.p@-----.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 12/20/06, Laurence Beckhardt
> > > > > > <lbeckhardt@-----.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > Here's what I found at sheetmusic.cz, which is
> > > > > > Editio
> > > > > > > Baerenreiter Praha's czech website and on line
> > > > > > store:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But that's the Septet arrangement for wind band.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good, though.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tony
> > > > > >
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> > > >
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