Klarinet Archive - Posting 000083.txt from 2006/12

From: clarni bass <clarnibass@-----.com>
Subj: RE: [kl] OK. I give up
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:40:20 -0500

I spent a minute checking Stephen Fox website for the
price of a new one. It's about $8,000 US for the open
hole model. I doubt a closed holes model is $2,500 US
more (or maybe it is?). Some people don't care for or
about gold plating (and some even think it's quite
ridiculous!) so a new closed holes silver plated one
is probably less expensive than your price. So in
exchange for the waiting time someone can get a new
one with probably some specifications made especially
and a warrenty. This is just something that (in the
very slim chance someone who might be interested in
this basset horn noticed the eBay auction) would
still, maybe, cause them not to buy it.

--- Laurence Beckhardt <lbeckhardt@-----.net> wrote:

> Fair enough.
>
> I only take issue with your statement that implies
> that your bsthrn would only be appreciated by
> someone
> with the means to pay for it. That's crass and
> insulting to those of us who can't afford the $10K
> right now, but understand the real worth of a
> beautifully made basset horn, as well as its
> literature.
>
> Donald Trump could buy it easily and turn it into a
> lamp for one of his building lobbies - would that
> make
> you happy?
>
> There are very few things in this world (aside from
> family and friends) that give me more pleasure than
> playing the Gran Partita, Requiem, Notturni, etc. on
> my wonderful $2000 used Leblanc Basset Horn.
>
> --- dnleeson <dnleeson@-----.net> wrote:
>
> > I buy and sell a lot of things on ebay. And one
> of
> > the
> > techniques available to a seller is to state a
> price
> > that is
> > below what s/he will sell it for. It is called
> "the
> > reserve
> > price" and no one knows what it is until someone
> > bids enough to
> > stumble over it. But any bids made up to the time
> > that the
> > reserve price is made known are met with a
> statement
> > that the
> > bidder is still under the reserve price, or too
> low
> > to accept.
> >
> > Now having stated how the reserved price system
> > works, I'd like
> > to mention that it is one of my least favorite
> > bidding
> > techniques, either as a seller or a buyer. That is
> > because as a
> > buyer, I'm working blind, and as a seller I see it
> > as arrogant to
> > lure a person into a buy position and then say,
> > "Sorry poopsie,
> > that's not enough money."
> >
> > It irritates the hell out of me when I see it
> happen
> > as a buyer,
> > and so I deliberately chose never to use it as a
> > seller. I hold
> > the opinion that an intelligent buyer will
> > appreciate the fact
> > that the seller establishes a reasonable selling
> > price, which is
> > exactly what I did. Certainly, assuming that the
> > buyer is an
> > idiot is no way to approach a sale. And assuming
> > that the seller
> > is either ignorant or a crook or both is also no
> way
> > to approach
> > a sale.
> >
> > In the years of working ebay, I have developed a
> > 100% approval
> > rating, and I did so by making the most serious
> > effort to supply
> > an item at a price that is attractive and
> > reasonable. So far, I
> > have been fairly successful, and never sold
> anything
> > at other
> > than a reasonable profit, and, once or twice, at
> an
> > astonishingly
> > high profit.
> >
> > What I think I will do now, is go to the Oklahoma
> > clarinet
> > festival next summer with the instrument so that
> any
> > interested
> > parties can see and play it. The price will remain
> > unchanged,
> > which is because I am more interested in selling
> it
> > to someone
> > who will appreciate it than simply disposing of
> it.
> > Keep in mind
> > that I am in the best kind of financial position;
> > i.e., I don't
> > need the money to live. But that does not mean
> that
> > I will allow
> > myself to be manhandled.
> >
> > Oh yes: the economic issues. Did I mention that,
> as
> > a basset
> > hornist, one can make a considerable amount of
> money
> > if you know
> > the repertoire, can play well, and live in the
> right
> > geography.
> > First, the instrument is tax deductible, and
> second,
> > with as few
> > as four gigs a year, it will take 10 years to
> > amortize the cost.
> > But you have to know something about music, and
> you
> > need to be
> > agressive. Anyone who hears of a performance of
> the
> > Mozart
> > Requiem and who does not react at once, is never
> > going to get any
> > work as a basset hornist. Get one performance of
> > Rosenkavalier,
> > play the part well, and people are going to seek
> you
> > out. And you
> > have to be aware of the fact that no one plays
> > Beethoven's
> > Creatures of Prometheus ballet music because of
> the
> > inability to
> > get a basset hornist who can play that part. And
> the
> > Roger
> > Sessions violin concerto is underplayed for the
> same
> > reason.
> >
> > Oh yes. It is an instrument with a lot of doubling
> > fees. Consider
> > the Magic Flute.
> >
> > Dan Leeson
> > DNLeeson@-----.net
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Laurence Beckhardt
> > [mailto:lbeckhardt@-----.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 7:00 AM
> > To: klarinet@-----.org
> > Subject: RE: [kl] OK. I give up
> >
> >
> > have you considered listing your bsthrn at a lower
> > price to see what the market will pay? you could
> > always have a high reserve to keep your options
> > open.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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