Klarinet Archive - Posting 000299.txt from 2006/10

From: Erik Tkal <bbtkal@-----.org>
Subj: Re: [kl] Tchaikovsky 6th Question
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:17:09 -0400

The Orchestra Musician's CD-ROM version (doesn't specifically state the
edition it came from) only has 2 clarinet parts in A. The 1st part
shows those notes as cues for basson (Fgt. I); the 2nd part does also
(shows cues for Klar. I, then for those last 4 notes says Fgt. I).

Erik

Keith Bowen wrote:

>Likewise - mine is the Eulenberg score. It makes no mention of bass
clarinet
>(or of double winds!) in the score, nor in the preamble, either. The
>autograph still exists in the Glinka museum, Moscow. He didn't have a
lot of
>time to change it, as he died twelve days after it was performed, and
it was
>published posthumously.
>
>Keith Bowen
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: klarinet-return-89108-bowenk=compuserve.com@-----.org
>>[mailto:klarinet-return-89108-bowenk=compuserve.com@-----.org] On
>>Behalf Of karlkrelove@-----.net
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>>To: klarinet@-----.org
>>Subject: Re: [kl] Tchaikovsky 6th Question
>>
>>
>>The score I have shows those four notes in the bassoon part. I'd never
>>heard
>>that it was originally supposed to be a bass clarinet, but if it was it
>>must
>>have been Tchaikowsky who changed it, since it got into the printed
>>editions
>>of the score and parts.
>>
>>I just heard the Philadelphia Orchestra perform it. They used a bass
>>clarinet, as they did the last time I heard them play it a couple of
>>seasons
>>ago. This time (I don't remember about the other) Eschenbach returned
to a
>>tradition the orchestra had pretty much left after Ormandy retired in the
>>early 1980s and doubled all the wind parts, so the bass clarinet doubled
>>2nd
>>clarinet for the rest of the symphony.
>>
>>Karl Krelove
>>
>>From: Jim Lytthans <lytthans@-----.net>
>>Date: 2006/10/19 Thu AM 11:02:26 CDT
>>To: "Klarinet Digest (Mail)" <klarinet@-----.org>
>>Subject: [kl] Tchaikovsky 6th Question
>>
>>I have a question regarding the use of bass clarinet in the Tchaikovsky
>>"Pathetique". symphony. We're doing it on the next concert, and I have
>>played it many times. I remember the bass clarinet, not the bassoon,
>>playing the last four notes in measure 160, at the end of the clarinet
>>solo,
>>just before the Allegro Vivo in the 1st movement. Several recordings I
>>have
>>of the work use bass clarinet also, but I can't seem to locate a bass
>
>part.
>
>>I know the four notes in question are an easy substitution, but I can't
>>see
>>the player sitting on stage for just four notes. Any suggestions?
>>
>>Jim Lytthans
>>Anaheim, CA
>>
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