Klarinet Archive - Posting 000259.txt from 2006/10

From: "Keith Bowen" <bowenk@-----.com>
Subj: RE: [kl] Keith's comments
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:11:14 -0400

It was described as a cadenza in the program, and had all the appurtenances
of one except that it didn't start on the tonic. It is memory now, but I am
almost sure there was modulation away and back again as well as lots of
filigree. I think it calls for more than a wrist slap.

Keith

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> Subject: RE: [kl] Keith's comments
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> What I think you are saying is that his Eingang was not
> consistent with a Mozartean Eingang. That's a slap on the wrist,
> with a "don't do that again" statement. To play an Eingang that
> transitions into a Cadenza is a life sentence on bread and water.
> The matter of improvised or not improvised is not really a
> serious issue, though I'd love to see the practice reinstated.
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> It is, instead, a matter of content; i.e., a square peg in a
> round hole.
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> Dan Leeson
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Bowen [mailto:bowenk@-----.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:01 AM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Keith's comments
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> I don't think he played an eingang plus a cadenza, I should have
> been
> clearer (and yes I know the difference, learned from you!).
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> He played what I would describe as a cadenza-like eingang, not
> merely a
> brief transition from dominant to tonic. It was one or two
> minutes of
> cadenza-like stuff, so you could call it a very, very, very
> over-elaborate
> eingang I suppose, in that he went from dominant to tonic
> eventually. I have
> no idea whether he did it on the spot or had it prepared. I
> thought the
> style jarred.
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> Keith
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> [mailto:klarinet-return-89068-bowenk=compuserve.com@-----.org]
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> > Behalf Of dnleeson
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:16 PM
> > To: klarinet@-----. org
> > Subject: [kl] Keith's comments
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> > One more thing, Keith. We may be talking about two different
> > things here with respect to the Meyer's performance of K. 581
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> > Neidich's performance of the same work.
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> > I need further information about exactly what Neidich did.
> > Charlie Neidich is very familiar with these issues and I do not
> > believe that he would have played an Eingang and then a
> Cadenza.
> > I also find it hard to believe that he would have played a
> > Cadenza instead of an Eingang. He might have played an
> > over-elaborate Eingang, but that remains to be seen. And
> finally,
> > whoever wrote the notes that you quoted might not know an
> Eingang
> > from an Italian plum. The story is too confusing.
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> > Dan Leeson
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