Klarinet Archive - Posting 000257.txt from 2006/10

From: "dnleeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] Keith's comments
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:18:08 -0400

What I think you are saying is that his Eingang was not
consistent with a Mozartean Eingang. That's a slap on the wrist,
with a "don't do that again" statement. To play an Eingang that
transitions into a Cadenza is a life sentence on bread and water.
The matter of improvised or not improvised is not really a
serious issue, though I'd love to see the practice reinstated.

It is, instead, a matter of content; i.e., a square peg in a
round hole.

Dan Leeson
DNLeeson@-----.net

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From: Keith Bowen [mailto:bowenk@-----.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:01 AM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: RE: [kl] Keith's comments

I don't think he played an eingang plus a cadenza, I should have
been
clearer (and yes I know the difference, learned from you!).

He played what I would describe as a cadenza-like eingang, not
merely a
brief transition from dominant to tonic. It was one or two
minutes of
cadenza-like stuff, so you could call it a very, very, very
over-elaborate
eingang I suppose, in that he went from dominant to tonic
eventually. I have
no idea whether he did it on the spot or had it prepared. I
thought the
style jarred.

Keith

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> One more thing, Keith. We may be talking about two different
> things here with respect to the Meyer's performance of K. 581
and
> Neidich's performance of the same work.
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> I need further information about exactly what Neidich did.
> Charlie Neidich is very familiar with these issues and I do not
> believe that he would have played an Eingang and then a
Cadenza.
> I also find it hard to believe that he would have played a
> Cadenza instead of an Eingang. He might have played an
> over-elaborate Eingang, but that remains to be seen. And
finally,
> whoever wrote the notes that you quoted might not know an
Eingang
> from an Italian plum. The story is too confusing.
>
> Dan Leeson
> DNLeeson@-----.net
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