Klarinet Archive - Posting 000174.txt from 2006/09

From: "Keith Bowen" <bowenk@-----.com>
Subj: RE: [kl] "best" concerto
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:52:38 -0400

Dan

I didn't claim it was Urtext. But you should have seen the bizarre phrasing
in the edition I worked from. However I thought I recall that there were
more plausible sources for the sinfonia - maybe wrongly.

I mentioned the double stopping below.

Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: klarinet-return-88645-bowenk=compuserve.com@-----.org
[mailto:klarinet-return-88645-bowenk=compuserve.com@-----.org] On Behalf
Of dnleeson
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:35 PM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: RE: [kl] "best" concerto

Checking the phrasing of the Sinfonie Concertante against the NMA
volume is no more useful than doing the same thing with K. 622.
The manuscript of the concertante has been lost for years. There
is also the issue of the cadenza in the concertante, which
requires double stops.

Dan Leeson
DNLeeson@-----.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Bowen [mailto:bowenk@-----.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:49 PM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: RE: [kl] "best" concerto

Ah now we are onto stealing concertos, much more fun to talk
about.

The Mozart Sinfonia Concertante for violin and viola works very
well with
clarinet playing the viola part. Of course one should admit what
one is
doing, but viola players shamelessly steal our stuff! I have a
Sibelius
version of the transcription if anyone is interested; I checked
the phrasing
against the NMA. You preferably need a discreet clarinet or viola
playing
one or two of the double stopped notes in the cadenza but
otherwise there
are no issues, and it is a lovely piece.

Keith Bowen

-----Original Message-----
From: klarinet-return-88641-bowenk=compuserve.com@-----.org
[mailto:klarinet-return-88641-bowenk=compuserve.com@-----.org]
On Behalf
Of Kevin Fay
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 6:10 AM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: RE: [kl] "best" concerto

Sean disagreed with me re K622:

<<<I do happen to think that the Mozart clarinet concerto stacks
up against
his other great concertos, though Piano cto. #23 is marvelous.>>>

Perhaps I've just heard it too much, played mostly by the
interchangeables.
At middle-school solo festivals, too. Sigh.

Sean then PSed:

<<<PS, for Beethoven violin concerto - check out Michael Collins
playing it
on the clarinet - it works very well (and a music critic friend
of mine
actually likes it better that way).>>>

I will.

I am of the opinion that the Copland violin sonata works *much*
better on
clarinet. There are a couple of good recordings about. When I
heard it
played on violin, I thought it was a feline disagreement.

kjf

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