Klarinet Archive - Posting 000010.txt from 2006/05

From: "David B. Niethamer" <dnietham@-----.edu>
Subj: Re: [kl] Re:Weber Duo Concertante
Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 21:18:24 -0400


On May 2, 2006, at 6:19 PM, Lorraine wrote:

> Thank you Margaret, someone else suggested this to me today - just
> need to
> see if I can find someone who has a copy - if your student doesn't
> respond.
> I have tried several of the music shops near me and they don't have
> it. To
> be honest, at this stage I can't really afford to buy another copy for
> myself, otherwise I would order one from somewhere.
>
> I have already tried the local music libraries.
>
Lorraine asked, re the Weber Grand Duo:
>
>> in the 3rd movement, bar 79 - 80. The
> groups of semiquavers are notated rythmically different to the previous
> groups of six semi-quavers. i.e. the first semi-quaver (sixteenth
> note) is
> dotted, with the second being a demi-semi quaver. My teacher has said
> to
> play them straight as all others as he believes it is an editorial
> difference, not what Weber would have written,

Search on the Clarinet BB archives for the thread about the Grand Duo.

Here's what Tony Pay wrote:

>> The difficulty with all current editions is that there is no unedited
>> clarinet part.
>>
>> The Henle editions of the other Weber works provide you with such
>> unadorned clarinet parts, as well as copies of Carl Baermann's edition
>> of those pieces, which might be taken to represent something like what
>> Heinrich Baermann (his father and Weber's collaborator) played at the
>> time.
>>
>> You can therefore look at both sources and make up your own mind what
>> you want to do.
>>
>> However, there is no Henle edition of the Gran Duo, and no Carl
>> Baermann edition either, as far as I know.
>>
>> All other editions provide you with a part containing just what a
>> particular clarinet player -- Giamipieri, Garbarino, Kell, Drucker etc
>> -- happens to fancy doing. (The Weston edition provides you with what
>> a non-clarinetplaying editor fancies your doing, which is even more
>> redundant in my book.)
>>
>> I have a photocopy of the original manuscript, the clarinet part of
>> which I have put into Sibelius, and I attach a Postscript file of
>> that. I don't know whether it will work -- perhaps someone will tell
>> me.
>>
>> I should say that I am not suggesting that you play all the
>> articulations that appear, or don't appear, in this version. It's just
>> that it's worthwhile knowing what Weber wrote, so that you can ignore
>> stuff written by OTHER PEOPLE that doesn't fit with what you want to
>> do.
>>
>> Tony

follow this link to the pdf download of Tony's manuscript:

http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/download.html/1,764/
weberduo.pdf

If this doesn't work, MarK C's message with the link is two bwelow
Tony's in the BB thread.

BTW, the short answer is that the manuscript has the dotted 16th
notes, FWIW.

David

David B. Niethamer
dnietham@-----.edu
http://members.aol.com/dbnclar1/index.html

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