Klarinet Archive - Posting 000135.txt from 2006/04

From: "Matthew Lloyd" <matthew@-----.uk>
Subj: RE: [kl] Business aspects of music performance & education
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 18:22:59 -0400

We have had similar schemes concentrating on literacy and numeracy over
on this side of the Atlantic. It is very difficult to be critical of a
scheme that is designed to make children more literate or numerate.

But what has happened here is that special classes are given to those
who are nearly at the required level, with special government money, so
that the statistics are met.

This is clearly not good educational practice.

From what I have gathered your system of "No Child Left Behind" has
similarities to ours. Both appear to concentrate on the basics of those
aspects of education which are, to be honest, more training than
education.

It is music, literature, art, physics, philosophy et al that are the
stuff of education. But you can't start that until you know how to write
well and count.

The difficultly is that those in charge of "Education" see it only as
training for work, and therefore don't see the value of these wonderful
disciplines. Indeed, we have had Government Ministers saying that it is
a good thing that people do not study classics or philosophy much, and
that they should concentrate on marketable degrees.

I don't know what the answer is, but you in America aren't the only ones
with the same problem.

Matthew - who has a degree in Philosophy but makes a good living at the
Law!

-----Original Message-----
From: Dee Flint [mailto:deeflint01@-----.net]
Sent: 15 April 2006 23:09
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: Re: [kl] Business aspects of music performance & education

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karl Krelove" <karlkrelove@-----.net>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 5:20 PM
Subject: RE: [kl] Business aspects of music performance & education

>
>

[snip]

>
> I think our views of the problem are in agreement. It's our respective

> views
> of *this* solution that seem so diametrically opposed.
>
> Karl
>

I pass no judgment whatsoever on this particular program. There is
simply
insufficient data to determine whether it will work or not. The
arguments
that I have seen to date have been based solely on opinions or very
limited
anecdotal stories rather than concrete data. All approaches can be
shown as
bad if only opinions and anecdotes are used as the "proof."

Dee

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