Klarinet Archive - Posting 000556.txt from 2006/03

From: "Doug Potter" <doug@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] Transposed Parts
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:12:49 -0500

I struggled with that section a lot. Too bad I didn't hear this before we
performed it.

Thanks.

Doug
http://ConicWave.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Shilcock
[mailto:roger.shilcock@-----.uk]
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 1:56 PM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: RE: [kl] Transposed Parts

The "rippling" figures at the beginning of "Vltava" (aka "Moldau") are much
easier to play on C clarinets (for which they were written), and,
interestingly
(perhaps!) they lie better on an A clarinet than on a b flat. Especially if
the
players are amateurs, not playing on the B flat frees them to think more
about
listening to one another than about introduced technical problems.
Roger S.

In message <003c01c6506e$b066ce70$6601a8c0@-----.com>
klarinet@-----.org writes:
> Which might explain why the part for the Moldau I found on "The Orchestra
> Musician's CD-ROM Library" was in C, Bb, and A. However the part our
> orchestra has is in Bb - although whoever transposed it incorrectly left
the
> "muta en A" in before the end section.
>
> But, alas, we have no such transposition for the Symphonic Variations.
>
> I think some of you are a bit harsh on those who don't know about C
> clarinets (or the even more obscure instruments mentioned). Perhaps for
> professional musicians or those who studied music in college, it might be
> appropriate - but I don't believe playing the clarinet is limited to those
> people. People who refuse to be educated (such as the conductor in the
Dan
> Leeson story) seem more appropriate for such scorn.
>
> Doug
> http://ConicWave.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Shilcock
> [mailto:roger.shilcock@-----.uk]
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:11 AM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Transposed Parts
>
> The Symphonic Variations are based on a Czech folk-tune - I won't give the

> title, as I can't do the diacritics on this keyboard. Given that by the
mid-
> nineteenth century the C clarinet had become a folk instrument in Bohemia,
> it
> seems likely that Dvorak wanted an association with this tradition.
Smetana
> used the C a lot, too; one of the reasons our amateur orchestra decided
not
> to
> play his "Sarka" was the difficulty of the C clarinet parts - also one of
my
>
> reasons for buying a C.
> Roger S.
>
>
> In message <002901c64f79$8521cda0$9f091cac@-----.com>
> klarinet@-----.org writes:
> > But, alas, we have no C clarinet players in our orchestra. And just to
> show
> > our true ignorance, neither the other clarinet players nor our conductor
> > knew C clarinets existed.
> >
> > So we could debate (as we have before) how important it is to play what
> the
> > composer intended as opposed to what the player does - but in this case,
> we
> > need Bb or A transpositions so we can play it at all. We could also
sight
> > transpose it - but that would be much harder and the effect would be the
> > same.
> >
> > Doug
> > http://ConicWave.net
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Shilcock
> > [mailto:roger.shilcock@-----.uk]
> > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:32 AM
> > To: klarinet@-----.org
> > Subject: RE: [kl] Transposed Parts
> >
> >
> > .... but C clarinet is clearly what he wanted.
> > Roger S.
> >
> >
> > > Great resource.
> > >
> > > Can anyone point me to Dvorak's Symphonic Variations transposed for Bb
> or
> > A?
> > > The parts we have are in C (with a little Bb).
> > >
> > > Doug
> > > http://ConicWave.net
> > >
> >
> >
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