Klarinet Archive - Posting 000153.txt from 2006/02

From: "Rommel John Miller" <rjmiller@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Eb barrel?
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:54:59 -0500

Mark,

I don't mean to incite your ire but what do you think the term "cyano" in
"cyano-acrylic" means.

And every cyano-acrylic I have ever used has ALWAYS cautioned the user to
ensure proper ventilation when applying the substance.

Given the properties (chemical) of cycano-acrylics, we know that they are
susceptible to high rates of oxidation, and breakdown, hence anything
repaired with a cyano-acrylic will have a semi-acrid smell unless it is
perfummed.

Now, since the Clarinet is a woodwind, and we breathe into this instrument,
and the etrophying fumes of the cyano-acrylic are intermingling with the
air-flow, isn't it perceivable, that given the dyanmics of air-flow, a
certain amount of back-wash from the clarinet will be taken in when a fresh
breath is taken?

Ergo, the human body is having the carcinogens, and cyano-acrlyics are known
carcinogens, ingested into, in trace amounts, but into it all the same.

Hindbinding reduces the carcinogenic possibilities, wouldn't you think as
much?

I really don't like the way you have to always challenge my points of view
dear friend, becasue I think we are dealing with more than just an
aesthetics issues here, there is an issue of the health of the
instrumentalist at stake, and we have seen in the wake of September 11,
2001, just what foreign and carcinogenic substances in the lungs can do to
people, and that is in its extreme and expontential form.

With Cyano-acrylics, we are being killed slowly, our brains cells killed
off, and breathing that stuff in is akin to what kids in my generation used
to do with air-plane glue and a brown paper bag.
It'll fry your brain, just alot slower and a lot more insidiously than if it
were to happen all at once.

And who is to say that the development of cyano-acrylics and others
cyanide-based solvents, adhesives and others nefarious "better living
through chemistry" invotations haven't been the real cause of things like
dementia and Altzheimers among many people over the age of 50?

This is what worries me, we are willing to utilize these things willy nilly
without weighing the consequences to our health. And I really think that we
have to start thinking more about what we use and what we are doing, not
only with regard to our environment, but also with regard to our health.

We have to think, think about what we say and how we act, and that means
ethically.

Sorry to be such an asshole, but you have to understand Mark that when you
spend a lot of time in a VA hospital you can't help but learn about these
things becasue you see it everywhere.

Shalom,

Rafi

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Charette" <charette@-----.org>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [kl] Eb barrel?

> Rommel John Miller wrote:
> > Oh no, I would NEVER recommend super glue or any type of glue, other
than a
> > properly formulated bonding agent for wood.
> People with a great deal more experience than you (I believe) and have
> their reputations on the line use cyano-acrylic glues in many instances
> in repairing cracks in fine woodwind instruments - they're smart enough
> to know how to use the materials at hand to do the best job, be they
> traditional or new. A fine workman uses _all_ the tools at hand and
> isn't hidebound to the past.
>
> _I_ trust them. YMMV
>
>
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