Klarinet Archive - Posting 000136.txt from 2006/02

From: Fred Jacobowitz <fbjacobo@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Eb barrel?
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:26:37 -0500

Bands USED to be metal. Now they're usually made of Delrin (sp?) which
is a composite material. A channel is cut into the wood and the band is
glued into the channel so that it is flush with the surface and
virtually unnoticeable.

Fred J.

Kol Haruach Klezmer Band
Ebony and Ivory Duo
On Feb 10, 2006, at 11:05 AM, Curtis Bennett wrote:

> Are their bands made for this purpose, or do people just take the
> cheap route and buy a metal plumbing band?
>
>
> On 2/10/06, Fred Jacobowitz <fbjacobo@-----.net> wrote:
>> Curtis,
>> I have been told that there are two schools of thought on
>> cracks:
>> 1) Pin or band them. This will stop that crack from spreading.
>> HOWEVER,
>> this MAY put undue strain on the rest of the joint and cause cracks in
>> other places.
>> 2) Simply fill the crack and if it opens more, keep filling it -
>> sooner
>> or later the wood will stop changing and there will be no more cracks.
>> HOWEVER, it may be a long time (if ever) before the wood settles down
>> and conceivably could affect the structural integrity of the wood.
>> Take your pick. If you fill the crack, you could use a
>> variety of
>> materials. The folx I spoke to like super glue.
>> I will say that most of the people I talked to preferred
>> banding. A
>> minority said just let it be and keep filling.
>>
>> Fred Jacobowitz
>>
>>
>> Kol Haruach Klezmer Band
>> Ebony and Ivory Duo
>> On Feb 10, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Curtis Bennett wrote:
>>
>>> I have an Eb clarinet that has a slight crack in the barrel. An
>>> attempt was made to repair the barrel at one time, but appears to be
>>> leaking. As such, it no play so well, to put it mildly.
>>>
>>> However, if I hold my thumb up to the crack, and "seal" it, what I
>>> can
>>> play with just my left hand sounds superb. It has a clear, resonant
>>> tone - better, in fact, than the other Eb that I normally play in
>>> community band.
>>>
>>>
>>> Last night, I put it in a wood clamp, and applied a thin layer of
>>> super glue over the crack on the inside to see if it would hold. I
>>> haven't tried it yet, but I suspect that once I put it back on the
>>> horn, inserting it on the spindle is going to cause it to expand,
>>> thus
>>> re-opening the barrel.
>>>
>>> Another solution I had was to put a pipe clamp on it. You know, the
>>> kind you see under your sink. I could wrap it around, and then screw
>>> it down real tight. I'd probably paint such a thing black so it
>>> didn't
>>> stand out like a sore thumb.
>>>
>>> Given that I only play in community bands (and I'm not even doing
>>> that
>>> at the moment), such a solution at least seems somewhat feasible. I'm
>>> not so proud to really care what people think of me, or my
>>> instrument.
>>> :)
>>>
>>> But my question is - is it possible to fix these kinds of things?
>>> How
>>> feasible is it to replace these barrels? This isn't a Buffet
>>> instrument, it's a Cabart, so I'm certain that the manufacturer has
>>> long been lost to time. Can a professional woodworker recreate a
>>> barrel given an appropriate piece of wood to work with?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Curtis Bennett
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> Curtis Bennett
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