Klarinet Archive - Posting 000197.txt from 2006/01

From: "Keith" <bowenk@-----.com>
Subj: RE: [kl] corni ma non di Bassetto
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:22:59 -0500

In a German-notated score (indicated by the B not Bb) wouldn't it be "tief
B"?

Keith Bowen

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[mailto:klarinet-return-85931-bowenk=compuserve.com@-----.org] On Behalf
Of dnleeson
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:41 PM
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Subject: RE: [kl] corni ma non di Bassetto

I believe the practice was that when horns in B-flat basso were
desired, it had to be explicitly stated, just as clarinet in
B-flat meant soprano clarinet unless something else was
explicitly requested. An example may be found in Mozart's
request for four horns in K. 361. Two are horns in F, and the
other two are explicitly requested to be in B-flat basso.

Dan Leeson
DNLeeson@-----.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Thiel, Mark [mailto:thielm@-----.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 7:19 AM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: [kl] corni ma non di Bassetto

OK, I know I should be asking some horn list this question, but
hey, I
can ask my plumber for stock tips can't I? and besides you
listers are
_never_ without an opinion no matter the subject.

In Beethoven's opus 71 sextet for 2 clarinets (see I mentioned
them), 2
horns, 2 bassoons, in the second movement be calls for horns in
B. Now
I know that in his charmingly Germanic manner he actually means
Bb, but
which Bb? Is it meant to sound down a step like a Bb clarinet
or down
a ninth like a bass clarinet.

OK I've said "clarinet" three, make that four times.

Mark Thiel

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