Klarinet Archive - Posting 000067.txt from 2006/01

From: "Keith" <bowenk@-----.com>
Subj: RE: [kl] Gran Partitttta (K. 361)
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 04:54:18 -0500

For leaving out the WRONG t in Gran Paritta, buy pizzas for the whole list.

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> rg] On Behalf Of dnleeson
> Sent: 05 January 2006 20:28
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Gran Partitttta (K. 361)
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> Fees:
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> For throwing mix metaphors out the window, 4 pizzas
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> For adding to many "t's" to Gran Paritta, 17 pizzas fine
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> For general nagging that I have had to do, -3 pizzas (I love
> nagging so it's like a credit)
>
> Dan Leeson
> DNLeeson@-----.net
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph H. Fasel [mailto:jhf@-----.gov]
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 12:07 PM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Gran Partitttta (K. 361)
>
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> Mixed metaphors are a pain in the neck and should be thrown
> out the window.
>
> I didn't mean to suggest that the rules for Baroque cadenzas
> have any bearing on Classical ones. I only meant to support
> my previous statement that an eingang has some things in
> common with a Baroque cadenza. I certainly agree that a
> Classical cadenza is a different animal. (Or is that a horse
> of different color?)
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> I'll rely on you to keep the pizza tally.
>
> Cheers,
> --Joe
>
> On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 12:48, dnleeson wrote:
> > Don't mix metaphors. While the history of the Baroque
> cadenza has an
> > effect on the history of the classical cadenza, the
> rules
> > of what one does in one type of cadenza vs. the other type
> are quite
> > different.
> >
> > It would be as if you took the rules for a tenor sax solo in Royal
> > Garden Blues, and applied them to a guitar solo in a
> smash-em-up rock
> > group.
> >
> > Period rules change and it is unwise to use a predecessor
> period
> > to guide you in a later period.
> >
> > That is two more pizzas, for a total of 153.
> >
> > Dan Leeson
> > DNLeeson@-----.net
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joseph H. Fasel [mailto:jhf@-----.gov]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:43 AM
> > To: klarinet@-----.org
> > Subject: RE: [kl] Gran Partitttta (K. 361)
> >
> >
> > And as I said, I've been told that the one-breath rule applies
> to
> > the
> > cadenzas of Baroque arias, from which the later Classical
> instrumental
> > cadenza developed.
> >
> > --Joe
> >
> > On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 12:27, Lacy, Edwin wrote:
> > > <<<An Eingang is short. If it is longer than 10-15 seconds,
> > it's
> > > too long.>>>
> > >
> > > I once received advice to the effect that an eingang should
> be
> > able to
> > > be played on one breath. A cadenza, on the other hand, might
> > involve
> > > many breathing places.
> > >
> > > Ed Lacy
> > > University of Evansville
> >
> >
> >
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