Klarinet Archive - Posting 000062.txt from 2006/01

From: "dnleeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] Gran Partitttta (K. 361)
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 15:30:24 -0500

Fees:

For throwing mix metaphors out the window, 4 pizzas

For adding to many "t's" to Gran Paritta, 17 pizzas fine

For general nagging that I have had to do, -3 pizzas (I love
nagging so it's like a credit)

Dan Leeson
DNLeeson@-----.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph H. Fasel [mailto:jhf@-----.gov]
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 12:07 PM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: RE: [kl] Gran Partitttta (K. 361)

Mixed metaphors are a pain in the neck and should be thrown out
the
window.

I didn't mean to suggest that the rules for Baroque cadenzas have
any
bearing on Classical ones. I only meant to support my previous
statement that an eingang has some things in common with a
Baroque
cadenza. I certainly agree that a Classical cadenza is a
different
animal. (Or is that a horse of different color?)

I'll rely on you to keep the pizza tally.

Cheers,
--Joe

On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 12:48, dnleeson wrote:
> Don't mix metaphors. While the history of the Baroque cadenza
> has an effect on the history of the classical cadenza, the
rules
> of what one does in one type of cadenza vs. the other type are
> quite different.
>
> It would be as if you took the rules for a tenor sax solo in
> Royal Garden Blues, and applied them to a guitar solo in a
> smash-em-up rock group.
>
> Period rules change and it is unwise to use a predecessor
period
> to guide you in a later period.
>
> That is two more pizzas, for a total of 153.
>
> Dan Leeson
> DNLeeson@-----.net
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph H. Fasel [mailto:jhf@-----.gov]
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:43 AM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Gran Partitttta (K. 361)
>
>
> And as I said, I've been told that the one-breath rule applies
to
> the
> cadenzas of Baroque arias, from which the later Classical
> instrumental
> cadenza developed.
>
> --Joe
>
> On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 12:27, Lacy, Edwin wrote:
> > <<<An Eingang is short. If it is longer than 10-15 seconds,
> it's
> > too long.>>>
> >
> > I once received advice to the effect that an eingang should
be
> able to
> > be played on one breath. A cadenza, on the other hand, might
> involve
> > many breathing places.
> >
> > Ed Lacy
> > University of Evansville
>
>
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