Klarinet Archive - Posting 000047.txt from 2006/01

From: "Joseph H. Fasel" <jhf@-----.gov>
Subj: RE: [kl] Gran Partitttta (K. 361)
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 11:20:29 -0500

Dan,

To say that it is "nothing like a cadenza in the slightest" is a bit
over the top, IMHO. Perhaps you mean to say, as Douglas Adams might
have, that an eingang is almost, but not quite, exactly unlike a
cadenza. ;-)

Like a cadenza, it a place where an embellishment or improvisation is
called for at a particular kind of harmonic transition. Like a typical
Baroque cadenza, it should be brief (as is not generally the case for a
late Classical cadenza). I think you've taught me, though, that an
eingang shouldn't be overly elaborate or showy, as a cadenza (Baroque or
later) often is. And of course, the structures of the two kinds of
embellishments will be quite different because of the difference in the
kinds of harmonic transitions they mark.

Would you agree with that?

Cheers,
--Joe

On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 13:35, dnleeson wrote:
> It is nothing like a cadenza in the slightest. The musicians cut
> off and the party who plays the eingang does it alone. It's
> short, not fancy, and if it is longer than 10-15 seconds, that's
> to long. It ends either on the 7th or the 2nd of scale so that
> it can LEAD IN to the tonic note.
>
> Repeat after me: IT IS NOT LIKE A CADENZA,
> IT IS NOT LIKE A CADENZA,
> IT IS NOT LIKE A CADENZA,
> IT IS NOT LIKE A CADENZA,
> IT IS NOT LIKE A CADENZA,
> IT IS NOT LIKE A CADENZA,
> IT IS NOT LIKE A CADENZA.
>
> And it can be found in almost all chamber must from the last half
> of the 18th century. You have not been listening carefully. And
> I still get a pizza.

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