Klarinet Archive - Posting 000400.txt from 2005/11

From: "Jason W Alder" <alderjas@-----.edu>
Subj: [kl] Re: klarinet Digest 28 Nov 2005 22:01:01 -0000 Issue 6360
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:13:19 -0500

I've used both the Superscope and it's sister product, the Marantz CDR300.
They're essentially the same with a couple key differences. The Superscope
has the second cd drive to allow duplicating, as well as the tempo options.
The Marantz offers phantom power on its XLR connections so that high quality
condensor mics can be used directly. They could also be used with the
Superscope, but you'd need an external phantom power supply or mixer. I've
used the Marantz for recording band and orchestra festivals for the past few
years and have had great results. With quality mics, you get very good
quality recordings. With direct-to-CD recording, there is always the
possibility of the disc skipping and ruining your take, but if you use
quality media, this issue is greatly lessened. I've only had one instance
where a disc errored and I missed the recording since I've been using the
machine, and that was caused by a violent shake of the table it was sitting
on.

I haven't done much recording to mini-disc, but don't most of them just have
an 1/8" mini plug for a mic? That fact alone would keep from using one, as
the daisy chaining of connectors needed to get a mic from XLR to mini would
degrade the quality so much. Unless you use specific mics designed for the
unit, but I personally wouldn't trust their quality, either. However, once
you are getting sound into the unit, it is capable of recording at CD
quality resolution, so you could still get good results, but I'd pretty well
guarantee that either the Superscope or Marantz processes the audio better,
thus resulting in a better recording.

The Marantz compact flash recorder that was suggested looks as if it has
many of the same features and functions as the CDR300. One nice thing about
going direct to CD is eliminating steps. You could listen to a CD you just
recorded immediately in any CD player, rather than having to first transfer
to computer and burn. However, the compact flash is also capable of
recording at 48khz, rather than just 44.1, but I'd bet if you were concerned
about recording at 48khz, you wouldn't be doing it by this method, anyway ;)
Either way, I'd definitely recommend either of these over mini-disc if
fidelity is a concern.

~Jason

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> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:44:09 -0600
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> From: "Lacy, Edwin" <el2@-----.edu>
> Subject: alternate recording technology
> Message-ID: <5C7554D82F4671478985015814A65B770366E363@-----.edu>
>
> We have had a number of discussions about recording to mini-disc, or to
> the computer hard drive, etc. I would like to hear some comments and
> discussion about the technology of recording directly to CD-R or CD-RW.
> Specifically, I wonder how people like the Superscope PSD300 in
> comparison with the Sony mini-disc recorder.
>
> The Superscope machine seems to have several interesting capabilities.
> In playback, you can vary the tempo without changing the pitch, or
> change the pitch without changing the tempo. It also has a built-in CD
> duplicator. It has an internal microphone, but also has XLR and 1/4"
> microphone/line inputs. In summary, it appears to be very flexible and
> very useful.
>
> Has anyone used it? How is the quality of recordings as compared to the
> mini-disc system?
>
> Ed Lacy
> University of Evansville
>
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>
> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 09:08:44 -0800
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> From: Eric Dannewitz <ericdano@-----.com>
> Subject: Re: [kl] alternate recording technology
> Message-ID: <438B399C.5030305@-----.com>
>
> I don't know if I would trust recording directly to a CDR. I'm always
> concerned that perhaps the unit would get bumped, or the disc could be
> bad or something.
>
> I highly recommend Marantz's PMD670 compact flash recorder. It has an
> internal mic, XLR with phantom power, and easy to use, clear buttons and
> stuff. I use this unit a lot to record. I have a 2 Gig Compact Flash
> cartridge, and I can get over 3 hours of stereo, uncompressed
> recordings. Transferring it to the computer is a piece of cake, you can
> either take the flash cartridge out or hook it up via USB.
>
> Lacy, Edwin wrote:
>> We have had a number of discussions about recording to mini-disc, or to
>> the computer hard drive, etc. I would like to hear some comments and
>> discussion about the technology of recording directly to CD-R or CD-RW.
>> Specifically, I wonder how people like the Superscope PSD300 in
>> comparison with the Sony mini-disc recorder.
>>
>> The Superscope machine seems to have several interesting capabilities.
>> In playback, you can vary the tempo without changing the pitch, or
>> change the pitch without changing the tempo. It also has a built-in CD
>> duplicator. It has an internal microphone, but also has XLR and 1/4"
>> microphone/line inputs. In summary, it appears to be very flexible and
>> very useful.
>>
>> Has anyone used it? How is the quality of recordings as compared to the
>> mini-disc system?
>>
>> Ed Lacy
>> University of Evansville
>>
>
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>
> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:27:36 -0500
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> From: "Gerald R. Wolfe" <wolfent@-----.net>
> Subject: Re: [kl] alternate recording technology
> Message-ID: <008301c5f441$06a1dd50$6826c9d8@EVOW6000>
>
> Hi Ed,
> I have the PSD300, but haven't used it much yet and not at all for
> direct recording. It's very high quality, of course, and I expect to get
> some good use out of it in the near future. I'll be setting up a home
> recording studio shortly and I'll be able to give you a better eval at that
> time. If you have some specific questions on it or tests you'd like me to
> perform let me know and I'll see what I can do. I haven't done anything
> with the mini-disc system so can't help you there. If you want to email me
> privately that's OK too.
> Jerry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lacy, Edwin" <el2@-----.edu>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:44 AM
> Subject: [kl] alternate recording technology
>
> We have had a number of discussions about recording to mini-disc, or to
> the computer hard drive, etc. I would like to hear some comments and
> discussion about the technology of recording directly to CD-R or CD-RW.
> Specifically, I wonder how people like the Superscope PSD300 in
> comparison with the Sony mini-disc recorder.
>
> The Superscope machine seems to have several interesting capabilities.
> In playback, you can vary the tempo without changing the pitch, or
> change the pitch without changing the tempo. It also has a built-in CD
> duplicator. It has an internal microphone, but also has XLR and 1/4"
> microphone/line inputs. In summary, it appears to be very flexible and
> very useful.
>
> Has anyone used it? How is the quality of recordings as compared to the
> mini-disc system?
>
> Ed Lacy
> University of Evansville
>
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>
> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:38:42 -0600
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> From: "Daniel Stover" <kasparguy@-----.com>
> Subject: RE: [kl] alternate recording technology
> Message-ID: <BAY108-F1086D54538BB5E2E9F2C08BE480@-----.gbl>
>
> I believe one of the schools I teach at uses this for recording rehearsals.
> I haven't used the Marantz/Superscope recorder to record - only to play back
> CD's for students to hear solos. It's not the most intuitive control
> interface. And the manual is the size of a paperback text book. Every time
> i have to use it it takes me a few minutes to remember which drawer and
> buttons to hit to be able to play a commercial cd.
>
> For my own location recording, I have used a direct to CD-R recorder (the
> older HHB CDR-800, same as the Otari, Fostex and Denon recorders) for a
> couple of years, with never a fault. However, I've switched to the Alesis
> Masterlink, which records to a hard drive at a higher sample rate and bit
> depth, which I can then burn to CD and import to my computer and edit there
> before burning a master for the client. For direct to CD-r recording, just
> make sure to use a good quality blank. While I never had a problem with the
> HHB, I still ran a MiniDisc back up.
>
> Daniel
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Lacy, Edwin" <el2@-----.edu>
> Reply-To: klarinet@-----.org
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Subject: [kl] alternate recording technology
> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:44:09 -0600
>
> We have had a number of discussions about recording to mini-disc, or to
> the computer hard drive, etc. I would like to hear some comments and
> discussion about the technology of recording directly to CD-R or CD-RW.
> Specifically, I wonder how people like the Superscope PSD300 in
> comparison with the Sony mini-disc recorder.
>
> The Superscope machine seems to have several interesting capabilities.
> In playback, you can vary the tempo without changing the pitch, or
> change the pitch without changing the tempo. It also has a built-in CD
> duplicator. It has an internal microphone, but also has XLR and 1/4"
> microphone/line inputs. In summary, it appears to be very flexible and
> very useful.
>
> Has anyone used it? How is the quality of recordings as compared to the
> mini-disc system?
>
> Ed Lacy
> University of Evansville
>
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