Klarinet Archive - Posting 000335.txt from 2005/11

From: Roger Shilcock <roger.shilcock@-----.uk>
Subj: Re: [kl] Georg Ottensteiner clarinet (was Odd Clarinet)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:53:48 -0500


From the pictures, this instrument appears to have lost some keys. Perhaps it
would turn out to be a Baermann system instrument if they were replaced.
Roger S.

n message <009a01c5f037$6b655e00$a87ba8c0@-----.97>
klarinet@-----.org writes:
> Danyel (and listmates),
>
> Thanks a lot (Vielen Dank) for your interesting e-mail. Almost every day I
> learn something from this great 'Klarinet' list!
>
> Found another interesting Georg Ottensteiner at:
>
> http://www.uark.edu/ua/nc/NCCollectionPage/Page/Ottensteiner.htm
>
> ...and more about older clarinets on this interesting clarinet collection
> website:
>
> http://www.uark.edu/ua/nc/NCclarinetcollections.htm
>
> All the best,
>
> Aad Overeem
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "danyel" <rab@-----.de>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 4:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [kl] Georg Ottensteiner clarinet (was Odd Clarinet)
>
>
> > Hi Aad,
> >
> > sorry I didn't check my mails in a while. Now the Ottensteiner was sold
> for
> > above 5000, which I think was still a bargain. Yes, Ottensteiner, who also
> > worked for Beermann and designed the original Beermann-system with him,
> made
> > the clarinets for Muehlfeld. They are still kept in a Meiningen museum
> > (www.meiningermuseen.de/muehlfeldklarinette.html). Schwenk & Seggelke make
> > excellent copies, but the originals are still something else. I think they
> > might actually represent the apex of clarinet making. The full-Beermann
> > keywork leaves nothing to be desired and the sound and intonation are
> > fantastic. I particularly like the feature of a thumb-f#/c# key, as
> > originally proposed by Richard Mueller. I have never before seen this on a
> > C. The C-clarinet on Ebay had the same collector's mark as those in
> > Meiningen! It is quite possible that this was actually Muehlfeld's
> > C-clarinet or belonged to one of his colleagues in the Hofcapelle. Anyway,
> > this one was made exactly as the A and Bb from the Muehlfeld estate, even
> > including the stained boxwood! It would be very interesting to hear how
> > Mahler sounds on this C-clar., à-prospos the alleged inherent shrillness
> of
> > the C.
> > BTW, the original mouthpieces used by Muehlfeld (copies available from
> > Schwenk & Seggelke) are comparable to the "Wiener Konzertbahn" made today
> by
> > O. Hammerschmidt, very long and quite closed, with a large chamber. Using
> > one on my original Berthold, Speyer produces a rather similar type of
> sound,
> > which I think is very important for Brahms and quite unlike anything I
> found
> > in modern clarinets. To me, the sound of all modern clarinets (including
> > Oehler system) I know is quite dull, lacklustre in comparison with this
> kind
> > of instrument.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > danyel
> >
> > www.echoton.de/clar.html
>
>
>
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